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Subject:

Re: a feeling of lack of control

From:

Daniel Ezra Johnson <[log in to unmask]>

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Variationist List <[log in to unmask]>, Daniel Ezra Johnson <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Thu, 30 Sep 2010 14:22:26 -0400

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Dear Damien,

Thanks for your ownership and maintenance of this list which we are
all enjoying. I wonder, though, if you would know how to alter the way
the emails are sent such that REPLY replies to the author of the
message and REPLY ALL replies to the list. I believe this is
accomplished by making the list the default "cc: to" and the author
the only "reply: to" or something like that.

It is very embarrassing to keep broadcasting remarks intended for
individuals, and perhaps just as spam-like to some people as messages
about digest subscription or how many languages they speak, a piece of
information usually taken as the Paradebeispiel of what you're NOT
supposed to ask a linguist.

For me, though, English only.

Dan

On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 2:15 PM, Daniel Ezra Johnson
<[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> lmao nice
>
> On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 1:48 PM, Scott F. Kiesling <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> Agreed! This is why R is good -- it's not a 'statpack', whatever that
>> actually is, but a *language* for doing statistics. (Languages don't
>> tell you what to say, they let you say it; you have to figure out what
>> you want to say!).
>>
>> That said, it would be nice to have some more intuitive data
>> manipulation tools (although these are being developed I think).
>>
>> SFK
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 12:35:49PM -0400, Christopher wrote:
>>> From: Christopher <[log in to unmask]>
>>> Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 12:35:49 -0400
>>> To: "[log in to unmask]" <[log in to unmask]>
>>> Subject: Re: a feeling of lack of control
>>
>>>   Having advocated on behalf of R, I would like to respond to some of
>>> this discussion based on my experience in the hopes of guiding those
>>> looking for a statistical package.
>>
>>> As primarily a command line interface, R obliges the novice to overcome
>>> a very definite learning curve.  The advantage of this experience,
>>> however, is that it forces the user to be methodical and reasoned about
>>> their statistical analysis and graphical presentation.  When it comes to
>>> choosing inferential stats, for example, the user has to choose from all
>>> of the different procedures that R permits, mainly thanks to its
>>> creators' choice to make it open source software.  The only way to
>>> choose rationally is to consider how your data compares to the
>>> constraints of each procedure.  To my mind, this is the best way of
>>> going about statistical analysis.  It is neither so slick that one
>>> looses control (you MUST know what is going on to select the right
>>> test), nor is it overly complicated for someone dedicated to finding the
>>> appropriate statistical test.
>>
>>> Hope this helps,
>>> Christopher
>> --
>> Scott F. Kiesling, PhD
>>
>> Associate Professor
>> Department of Linguistics
>> University of Pittsburgh, 2816 CL
>> Pittsburgh, PA 15260
>> http://www.linguistics.pitt.edu
>> Office: +1 412-624-5916
>>
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