That would be the discussion that left you with UKI names?
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alessandra Forti [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: 14 September 2010 16:14
> To: Testbed Support for GridPP member institutes
> Cc: Gordon, John (STFC,RAL,ESC)
> Subject: Re: Getting Tier2 BDII configs consistent
>
>
> When there was the internal discussion to adopt more logical and
> uniform names across the UK, RAL didn't change it and sticked to
> RAL-LCG2. It wasn't an official request just a way to make the sites
> easy to select and recognisable.
>
> cheers
> alessandra
>
>
> On 09/14/2010 03:40 PM, John Gordon wrote:
> > I don't think it is a case of RAL 'refusing' to change their name.
> We've
> > never been officially requested to change the name in GOCDB etc. The
> MoU
> > name is used in the Tier1 accounting and other reports
> > http://www3.egee.cesga.es/gridsite/accounting/CESGA/tier1_view.html
> but
> > if you drill down to other sites (eg Lyon) you will see that they
> also
> > retain their longtime names.
> >
> > I see no justification for experiments referring to RAL by yet
> another
> > name though.
> >
> > John
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Testbed Support for GridPP member institutes [mailto:TB-
> >> [log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Alessandra Forti
> >> Sent: 14 September 2010 14:56
> >> To: [log in to unmask]
> >> Subject: Re: Getting Tier2 BDII configs consistent
> >>
> >>
> >> Hi Jeremy,
> >>
> >> I didn't know anything about this name up to now as RAL always
> refused
> >> to change their name. Manchester is using the name in the GOCDB. It
> >> seems UK-T1-RAL is the official name in the WLCG MoU though and a
> > quick
> >> google search shows it has propagated to the LHCOPN pages where
they
> >> most likely refer to the MoU names.
> >>
> >> cheers
> >> alessandra
> >>
> >>
> >> On 09/14/2010 02:42 PM, J Coles wrote:
> >>> Hi Richard
> >>>
> >>> We should adopt the official name which is given in the GOCDB and
> >> that
> >>> is RAL-LCG2. Unless of course the Tier-1 intends to rename itself.
> >>> Perhaps those using UK-T1-RAL (which is a more logical name) could
> >>> explain where it came from initially?
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> Jeremy
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 14 Sep 2010, at 14:24, Hellier, Richard (STFC,RAL,ESC) wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Sam,
> >>>>
> >>>> As to origin, your guess is as good as mine! What I wanted to do
> >> was
> >>>> stimulate some discussion and agree on one label every T2 can
use.
> >>>>
> >>>> Cheers,
> >>>>
> >>>> Richard.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: Testbed Support for GridPP member institutes
> >>>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Sam Skipsey
> >>>> Sent: 14 September 2010 14:06
> >>>> To: [log in to unmask]
> >>>> Subject: Re: Getting Tier2 BDII configs consistent
> >>>>
> >>>> Hi Richard,
> >>>>
> >>>> Did you consider that this may be an artifact of other things
> (YAIM
> >>>> configuration settings, for example) changing? It's possible that
> >> the
> >>>> mapping is correlated with the last time the BDIIs were each
> >>>> reconfigured. (RAL-LCG2 is certainly a valid, old, default.)
> >>>>
> >>>> Sam
> >>>>
> >>>> On 14 September 2010 13:53, Hellier, Richard (STFC,RAL,ESC)
> >>>> <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >>>>> Hi
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> While upgrading the RAL top-level BDIIs last week, I spotted a
> few
> >>>>> inconsistencies (including the "Latitude Change"
> >>>>>
> >>>> http://www.gridpp.rl.ac.uk/blog/2010/09/14/ral-tier1-takes-
> >> unexpected-excurs
> >>>> ion-to-suffolk/).
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The main thing I noticed was that "opinion is divided" between
> the
> >> UK
> >>>> Tier2s
> >>>>> on how to refer to the Tier1. According to:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >
>
http://goc.grid.sinica.edu.tw/gocwiki/How_to_publish_my_site_informatio
> >> n
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> (link given to me in a GGUS ticket when I queried this), the
> >> parameter
> >>>>> WLCG_PARENT should be set to UK-T1-RAL whereas some sites are
> > using
> >>>>> RAL-LCG2.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Here's the state of play:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> EFDA-JET, RAL-LCG2
> >>>>>
> >>>>> UKI-LT2-Brunel, RAL-LCG2
> >>>>>
> >>>>> UKI-LT2-IC-HEP, UK-T1-RAL
> >>>>>
> >>>>> UKI-LT2-QMUL, UK-T1-RAL
> >>>>>
> >>>>> UKI-LT2-RHUL, UK-T1-RAL
> >>>>>
> >>>>> UKI-LT2-UCL-HEP, UK-T1-RAL
> >>>>>
> >>>>> UKI-NORTHGRID-LANCS-HEP, RAL-LCG2
> >>>>>
> >>>>> UKI-NORTHGRID-LIV-HEP, RAL-LCG2
> >>>>>
> >>>>> UKI-NORTHGRID-MAN-HEP, RAL-LCG2
> >>>>>
> >>>>> UKI-NORTHGRID-SHEF-HEP, RAL-LCG2
> >>>>>
> >>>>> UKI-SCOTGRID-DURHAM, RAL-LCG2
> >>>>>
> >>>>> UKI-SCOTGRID-ECDF, RAL-LCG2
> >>>>>
> >>>>> UKI-SCOTGRID-GLASGOW, UK-T1-RAL
> >>>>>
> >>>>> UKI-SOUTHGRID-BHAM-HEP, RAL-LCG2
> >>>>>
> >>>>> UKI-SOUTHGRID-BRIS-HEP, RAL-LCG2
> >>>>>
> >>>>> UKI-SOUTHGRID-CAM-HEP, RAL-LCG2
> >>>>>
> >>>>> UKI-SOUTHGRID-OX-HEP, RAL-LCG2
> >>>>>
> >>>>> UKI-SOUTHGRID-RALPP, UK-T1-RAL
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> AFAIK, nothing is broken by the variation but might as well be
> >>>>> tidied up
> >>>>> next time the BDII config is being updated.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Cheers,
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Richard.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> PS: The same is true of how Tier1 sites refer to CERN but that's
> >>>>> another
> >>>>> story ...
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