Paul,
I see your point, but there are huge data security issues with making it one key rather than individual keys. There are a number of rooms that need limited access (benefits, housing claims, confidential HR records, grievance files, complaints files). However, the wider point of open data is one that is now emerging on the national agenda.
My question relates to your final point about a council not being in the ownership of the crown. My understanding is that local government is a creature of central government so that it could be abolished tomorrow by Parliament if they chose to do so. Parliament, however, could not abolish the Crown. At least for now, Parliament is Her Majesty's and by inference, local government is subject to parliament and is therefore subject to the Crown.
However, I may have misunderstood my UK constitutional law. Happy to be corrected if that is not the case.
Best,
Lawrence
Principal Information Management Officer
Durham County Council
Room 4/140
County Hall
County Durham
DH1 5UF
0191-372-8371
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Sent: 10 September 2010 15:33
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The problem with this is that the owner suddenly treats it (the information) like their house and the key to the house is in their hands and they then decide who can see it or use it. In some circumstances this is acceptable but for a council it results in a hugh knowledge management problem, with locked repositories all over the place. Breaking the "owner" culture is vital to improving knowledge and records management within and organisation
A Council is a body corporate and is not therefore in the ownership of the crown.
P
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Sent: 10 September 2010 14:29
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Max, I don't think ISO 15489 defines any of owner, author, or creator.
Eleanor, I doubt you actually need to worry about the distinction between creator and author. That is to say, I can see the difference (e.g. a letter's typist versus the executive who dictated the letter), but that does not mean you have to capture both as metadata. If you DO need to capture both, then the reason why should be clear, and how to define then should be obvious. I can think of one other possibility, namely that you think you need to capture both because you want to conform to e-GMS. You don't - conformance for its own sake, in this respect, will bring no benefit.
Finally, though Paul has a justifiable view that all records belong to the Council, I suspect you could argue they all belong to Her Majesty the Queen, with the Council and its Officers just being custodians. But that is a nicety that you can ignore too! The "owner", for records management purposes, must be the Officer responsible for looking after the records or aggregation. So, practically speaking, think of the "owner" as being the Officer who would have to give permission to make a significant change to a file - something like changing its title or its access permissions for example.
And, like Max said, good luck.
Marc
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Sent: 10 September 2010 13:45
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Subject: Record Owner - definition
"Why don't you use the definition provided by the ISO15489? Dont stress yourself, reinvent the wheel. Goodluck"
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Sent: 10 September 2010 13:23
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Has anyone got a nice, clear, simple definition of the owner of a record. I am struggling with creator, author, person responsible for review, editing, updating, publishing etc.
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