It seems to me that having the time to see and compare a reasonable
sample of events is a major stumbling block. Could any organisation
manage expenses to enable a retired person to do the task, assuming
such a person might have the time but not the resources?
Pam
("Retired" and pretty busy)
At 20:08 12/09/2010, Wendy Barnaby wrote:
>I wish we could! Money, as always, is a problem. But many people
>are happy to write for the exposure it gives them.
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>As someone who was at Wendy Barnaby's editorial meeting for People
>and Science, I think Andy's email hits the nail on the head. So
>should various magazines/websites be paying 'critics' to attend
>various events/activities/exhibitions/etc and review them?
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>This is a discussion we've had a few times within the British
>Interactive Group (at the conference and online at big-chat),
>usually in relation to exhibitions or science shows and demos. In
>these cases science communicators are essentially creating an
>"artistic" product for audiences but in most cases their experience
>of the work of their peers' work is limited. One of the useful
>roles of a critic in the arts is to travel around seeing lots of
>examples of work in order to form an opinion based on a meaningful
>comparison (being the person who sees more work than the artists
>themselves). As we don't really have anyone in this role it is very
>difficult to really make definitive judgements on whether a specific
>exhibit, lecture or show is, in the grand scheme, any good. Perhaps
>this is another way to think about the standards question as raised
>by the "Science for All" report – rather than worrying about ways to
>somehow validate or certify individual science communicators if we
>had a means to critically compare what we do with our peers then the
>field as a whole could raise its quality standards. It's a
>conversation we'll be continuing within BIG but we'd welcome anyone's thoughts.
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>From: Michael Kenward [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
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>That's not how I read it.
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>Billington reviews theatre, not writing about theatre.
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>Perhaps Wendy could elaborate.
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>MK
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>[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Jon Turney
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>But Wendy is looking for a science communication critic, rather than
>a science critic, I think? I too read Maurice's book long ago, and
>I think one could suggest a few candidates for the latter role -
>though no uncontroversial ones. Evelyn Fox-Keller certainly embraced
>the term at one time, with some justification.
>
>As for science communication critic - much harder. Established
>critical slots are tied to established media and cultural habits
>(books, theatre, music), but do offer a space for comment which it
>is hard to match. So maybe it is not (just) pedantic to point out
>that Billington has a salary and an independent platform for his
>views, and does not write drama. He did once try his hand at
>directing, I seem to remember, but more to inform his critical
>practice rather than to cultivate an alternative career...
>
>I'm not sure how one could set up a similar gig, covering all the
>forms and occasions for science communication, though if anyone want
>to promote it my application will follow! I think New Scientist's
>nicely eclectic, and multi-authored, Culture Lab is probably nearest
>we are going to get at the moment...
>On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 11:52 AM, Hugh Aldersey-Williams
><<mailto:[log in to unmask]>[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>Has anybody lately read Maurice Goldsmith's The Science Critic
>(1984)? He proposed this role at least 35 years ago. There must be
>reasons why the vacancy has not been filled. Surely high among them
>is that scientists aren't interested in the opinions of people who
>'don't actually do it'; new research doesn't at any stage in fact
>demand an audience response; also that the media reaction when it
>comes (eg to GM) is rather unmeasured (a theatre critic would be
>more even-handed!). The obvious candidates, such as Carl Sagan, are
>dismissed by scientific peers as having crossed over. Aren't James
>Lovelock or Richard Lindzen both from their respective sides of the
>fence critics of 'climate change' science? They certainly seem to
>stand awkwardly in relation to the mainstream.
> best,
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>At the last meeting of the editorial committee of "People &
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>to science communication as Malcolm Billington (Guardian theatre
>critic) has to the theatre. Any ideas? I'd discount Ben Goldacre
>as being too much a one-drum critic. We were trying to think of
>someone who knows the scene, doesn't actually do it, but engages
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