That is funny. Btw, I am very much enjoying reading your Nomad Poetics (in
conjunction with Morton's Ecology Without Nature). I came across Morton's work
via this new posse of Object-Oriented philosophers (Levi Bryant, Graham Harman)
whom I find quite exciting for thinking about evental/environmental poetics,
beyond the subject-object correlate. (Even though they, the OOP, seem to
generate a lot of agitation as well). Best, Jeroen
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From: Pierre Joris <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask]
Sent: Wed, September 15, 2010 4:36:51 AM
Subject: Re: pain piss off....
Funny you should be saying this today, Niewland, because weirdly enough tomorrow
I'll be teaching Timothy Morton's The Ecological Thought… Pierre
On Sep 14, 2010, at 5:09 AM, nieuwland jeroen wrote:
> I do agree that all kinds of factors come into play when writing, including
> one's physical state and environment. Pierre Joris also talks about this in
> Nomad Poetics, and I was recently getting into Timothy Morton's Ecological
> approach to literature, where he is also constantly stressing the ways a poem
> takes up space and influences and is influenced by its environment. (He has a
> great short lecture about his concept of Mesh to describe the
>interconnectedness
>
> of things: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-mWCPa9y3c ).
>
> I guess I just find it curious that if your physical condition is an integral
> part of your poetics, why you don't then, for example, elaborate more on the
> connection between those two - so how your chronic fatigue syndrome affects
>your
>
> poetics, and how your poetics affect your chronic fatigue syndrome. Or maybe
>the
>
> very fact of sharing these things is part of your poetics?
>
> But all this is making it sound like I fundamentally have a problem with it and
>
> I really do not. By all means please keep on keeping on as you were. Last thing
>
> I would want is to sound normative/judgemental in any way. I guess I, in turn,
>
> am just allowing my unusually crappy morning to break me out of my usual
> list-lurking self.
>
> All good things,
> Jeroen
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Chris Jones <[log in to unmask]>
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Sent: Tue, September 14, 2010 10:50:22 AM
> Subject: Re: pain piss off....
>
> On Tue, 2010-09-14 at 01:20 -0700, nieuwland jeroen wrote:
>> do wonder however, why you keep
>> feeling the need to keep updating the members of this poetics list
>> about your
>> medical condition
>
> Patrick said it also; this is one of the essential aspects of poetics.
> (Read Silvin Tomkins for more info.)
>
> --
> have chronic fatigue syndrome so may be delayed in reply or brain fog weird
>
> just to let you know that's all, Chris Jones.
>
> Blog: http://abdevpoetics.blogspot.com/
>
>
>
>
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