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My guess is that this particular phrasing was coined during the controversies of
the reformation, maybe even by Calvin himself. I have checked the digital
Libraries of "Classic Protestant Texts" and of the "Catholic Reformation" (both
published by Alexander Street Press), coming up with 25 hits in the first and
with 5 in the latter. The earliest occurence that I have found is in Calvin,
_Commentarii in Iesaiam_ (first publ. in 1551), Opera omnia, t.IX, Amsterdam:
Schipper, 1671, p.289 (on Is 44,10).
If you are interested, I can provide precise references and quotations.
Kind regards, O.
George FERZOCO <[log in to unmask]> hat am 22. September 2010 um 23:07
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> medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture
>
> Hey Tom, Hey Jim,
>
> Let's not forget everyone's idea of fun, Jean Calvin:
>
> *Christianae religionis institutio* (ed. 1559), lib. 1, cap. 11, par.
> 5, col. 78, l. 16:
> Scio quidem illud vulgo esse plus quam tritum: libros idiotarum esse
> imagines.
>
> Not having fun yet? Try
>
> *Christianae religionis institutio* (ed. 1559), lib. 1, cap. 11, par.
> 7, col. 79, l. 22:
> Quare si quid frontis habent papistae, ne posthac effugio isto
> utantur, libros esse idiotarum imagines; quod tam aperte pluribus
> scripturae testimoniis refellitur.
>
> This, thanks to Brepols and its Library of Latin Texts - Series A.
> (That was a public service announcement.)
>
> George
> --
> George FERZOCO
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>
> On 22 Sep 2010, at 21:47, Dr Jim Bugslag wrote:
>
> > medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and
> > culture
> > Tom,
> > You might recommend the following to your friend:
> > Celia M. Chazelle., ‘Pictures, books and the illiterate: Pope
> > Gregory I’s letters to Serenus of Marseilles,’ Word & Image, 6, no.
> > 2 (Apr-June 1990), 138-53
> > idem, "Memory, Instruction, Worship: Gregory's Influence on Early
> > Medieval Doctrines of the Artistic Image," in Gregory the Great, A
> > Symposium (Notre-Dame, IN, 1995), pp. 181-215
> > Lawrence Duggan, "Reflections on 'Was Art Really the book of the
> > Illiterate?'," in Reading Images and Texts: Medieval Images and
> > Texts as Forms of Communication, ed. M. Hageman and M. Mostert
> > (Turnhout, 2004), sorry, no page refs.
> > idem, "Was Art Really the 'Book of the Illiterate'?," Word & Image,
> > 5 (1989), 227-51
> > Jean-Claude Schmitt, "Ecriture et image: les avatars medievaux du
> > modele gregorien," in Theories et pratiques de l'ecriture au Moyen
> > Age (Nanterre, 1988), pp. 119-50
> > Cheers,
> > Jim
> >
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Jim
> >
> > On 22/09/2010 2:26 PM, Tom Izbicki wrote:
> >>
> >> medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and
> >> culture
> >>
> >> I am helping a friend with a Latin document of the 17th century.
> >> It cites Gregory the Great as calling images "libri idiotarum,"
> >> with a reference to a letter to Serenus of Marseille. I checked
> >> the letter, & the wording is not the same. The meaning matches,
> >> but the expression is not there. I did the inevitable Google
> >> search & found a lot of references to Gregory using the term. Has
> >> anyone run into a use of the term between Gregory's time & the 17th
> >> century?
> >>
> >> Tom Izbicki
> >>
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