Which is why (if you'll forgive the advertising!) JISC Advance has
been set up. In a horrible but expressive phrase it's role is to move
"from project to platform" exactly as Tom suggests.
Derek Law
(aka Board Chairman, JISC Advance)
Sent from my iPhone
On 3 Sep 2010, at 12:27, "Tom Franklin" <tom@franklin-
consulting.co.uk> wrote:
> However, I do think that there is a big problem that we as a
> community have
> not yet begun to address. That is that projects are set up because
> they are
> (or at least seem to be) interesting and have a considerable
> development
> portion. This requires one set of skills. Running a service
> requires a
> very different set of skills. Project staff are typically appointed
> because
> they have good project skills. It is then very difficult for them
> to turn
> the project into a service. I think that Intute is an exception
> which did
> manage to successfully move from a variety of projects into a proper
> service
> environment.
>
> I hope that JISC (and others) will look at what made the transition
> successful there, and why it has failed on numerous other
> occassions, and
> thus what is needed to help projects start off with the idea of
> becoming a
> service. I strongly suspect that projects that are created as
> services with
> some development will have greater success than those created as
> projects
> that try to elide into services.
>
> I also believe that JISC does make it difficult for projects (and
> services)
> to move out of a JISC funded model by the IPR restrictions that they
> put on
> projects and services. Basically, everything has to be given away,
> and
> continue to be given away for 2-3 years after the end of JISC
> funding. This
> significantly restricts what projects and services can do to move
> down a
> commercial model to support the service.
>
>
> regards
>
> Tom.
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> -----Original Message-----
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> On Behalf Of Derek Law
> Sent: 02 September 2010 13:11
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> Subject: Re: Lessons of Intute
>
> As one of the ageing suits who chaired committees which set up most
> of these
> services, I agree
> with Andy and Charles. JISC has a brilliant record of starting
> things off,
> setting them up,
> then giving them the space and time to become viable. If they don't
> the
> result is
> inevitable. I know this from bitter experience. The BUBL service
> here at
> Strathclyde was
> cut off after many years of funding.
> Nothing is forever. We need to learn the lessons and move on not
> moan that
> it's unfair
> Derek Law
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> Sent: 02 September 2010 11:45
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> Subject: Re: Lessons of Intute
>
> The service was not USED enough and therefore could not justify its
> cost to
> JISC. JISC should not be in the business of subsidising services
> which
> aren't being used or appreciated. One might speculate as to why
> Intute (I
> agree a really silly name) was used so little, and that's where
> lessons can
> indeed be learned.
>
> Charles
>
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