hi all, due to recently altered email arrangements, Im not sure this old email of mine (with attachmenst) got through to you, so Im sending again
Cheers
Rowena
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From: Rowena Macaulay [[log in to unmask]]
Sent: 19 August 2010 16:05
To: Accessibuilt list; Rowena Macaulay
Cc: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Query re door closers
Hi all,
Just to follow up, here (attached) is the guidance given by both Dorma and Arrow
Architectural downloadable from their respective web sites. Also, CAE's
'Specifiers Handbook for Inclusive Design (SHID): Automatic Door Systems' is on
sale for £8.75 at the RIBA bookshop:
http://www.ribabookshops.com/item/specifiers-handbook-for-inclusive-design-shid-automatic-door-systems-sale-item/37725/
Best
Rowena
Quoting Rowena Macaulay <[log in to unmask]>:
> Thank you all very much for your replies, really helpful. We are using hold
> open
> devices in many places now, and automated doors, so the problem is less grave
> than it was when I first started here (in a chair myself), but heavy doors
> are
> still going into some of our new-builds. I will follow up on your
> recommendations with the uni.
>
> Alan the checklist/booklet would be much appreciated if possible. Or maybe I
> could request directly from them if easier?
>
> Im out of email contact for a couple of days now but will catch up after
>
> Thanks again, this is a great resource
>
> Rowena
>
>
> Quoting "Hunt, Alan" <[log in to unmask]>:
>
> > Hi Rowena
> >
> > I agree with the good advice from all the other contributors so far.
> >
> > Overhead door closing devices when coupled with smoke seals/draught
> > seals etc are notoriously difficult and sometimes impossible to set up
> > to conform the 30N/22.5N standard. I have found Arrow Architectural to
> > be very honest and reliable in their advice regarding the capabilities
> > of door closers. They are manufacturers of door closers and I believe
> > invented the first cam action device. They are also willing to advise
> > over the phone or even visit you. (no obligation whatsoever) After
> > visiting us to deliver a CPD session they sent two colleagues
> > complimentary closing devices which were set up in their factory for the
> > particular applications/locations they were having difficulties with. I
> > believe they can also deliver door closers pre set to your requirements
> > so that no adjustment is required on site.
> >
> > I have a check list from them on how to check the complete door set
> > including the closer so as to optimise the performace of all the
> > elements - hunges, latches, seals etc. This is important because the
> > door closer will only perform to it's optimum capability if the entire
> > door set has been properly fitted.
> >
> > If you would like a copy of the checklist and their DDA booklet please
> > let me know.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Alan Hunt
> > Access Officer
> > Pembrokeshire County Council
> > tel: 01437 775148
> > e-mail: [log in to unmask]
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Accessibuilt list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf
> > Of Rowena Macaulay
> > Sent: 11 August 2010 12:29
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Query re door closers
> >
> > dear all,
> >
> > I'd be grateful for your experience/advice
> >
> > The University of Essex Access Forum, together with our Estates dept,
> > having
> > purchased a Persola pressure gauge, are embarking on a crusade against
> > heavy
> > doors.
> >
> > However we are immediately running into problems in that either the door
> > closers
> > (including some new ones) dont seem to be very adjustable, or, adjusting
> > the
> > opening pressure has the effect of increasing the closing speed,
> > potentially
> > causing a different kind of access hazard
> >
> > Estates also report that there is a difference between speed and tension
> > in
> > making the adjustments, and adjusting the first doesnt always affect the
> > second.
> >
> > Some of our old doors are always going to be more problematic (even with
> > new
> > closers) because the apertures are very high and the further the pushing
> > point
> > is from the closer itself the heavier the door weight.
> >
> > HOWEVER, we would really appreciate any experience others have,
> > particularly
> > with regard to specific types/makes of new closer that have been found
> > to work well, and that the uni could commit to purchasing in future
> >
> > Many thanks in advance for your thoughts
> > Rowena Macaulay
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