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Re: Capturing useful psci-com information,

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Jo Brodie <[log in to unmask]>

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psci-com: on public engagement with science

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Wed, 4 Aug 2010 22:05:37 +0100

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While normally I'd be a big fan of a question and answer type of thing (after all it's a big part of my day job at Diabetes UK) I wouldn't be so keen to start / promote something of that nature in this instance as I think it would dilute psci-com. 

I'd much rather people ask questions here and, as often happens, someone will anonymise (some people prefer to reply off-list), collate and share the responses with the list - it's at this point that *I* think we could do more to capture (and share more widely) the information... but I'm not sure what. 

It would probably be helpful to have something on which you can add extra information in the future, to keep the pages updated - a blog style of thing with comments might work well if Wikispaces looks unstable and other wikis are impenetrable.

Could a portion of the parent pscicom website at Intute be reserved for user editing or not possible? http://www.intute.ac.uk/pscicom/

Having said that I do like Andrew's website - but I probably wouldn't go there first to ask a question of the science community posse. I'd come here or go to BIG-chat, ABSW-L, Stempra etc. But maybe the format could work if people were encouraged to ask questions HERE and post collated responses here and at Andrew's site...

Anyway I managed to find the email I wrote back in December where I raised the idea of a content-management system. This link might take you there https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?A2=PSCI-COM;VtrCuQ;200912071541370000 but assuming it doesn't work have a search of the archives for "Some sort of 'content management' type of system?" from me on Mon 7 Dec 2009 https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?A0=psci-com. I'm afraid I can't remember if there was much enthusiasm for it then either.

Jo 'forgetfully repeating myself, forgetfully repeating myself' Brodie
P.S. Maybe we should have a psci-com hackday where we lock some nerds in a room with wifi, pizza and beverages and see what they can come up with :)

Science Information Officer
Library and Information Team http://www.diabetes.org.uk/library
Diabetes UK (Mondays, Tuesdays and Fridays)

On Wednesdays and Thursdays I work on a separate project at UCL
Public Engagement Coordinator
CHI+MED project http://tinyurl.com/CHI-MEDproject 
UCL Interaction Centre, UCL.

Get Serious - just add your name and email address to show your support at
http://www.diabetes.org.uk/GetSerious


-----Original Message-----
From: A Robinson [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Wed 04/08/2010 15:00
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [PSCI-COM] Capturing useful psci-com information,
 
As an addition, or an alternative to a wiki how about a question and  
answer site? I have created a test example at

http://hutch.cs.man.ac.uk/

Similarly, please feel free to try it. You can either register for an  
account or sign in via twitter. I hope to add sign in through facebook  
once the appropriate part of facebook starts working again.

Wikispaces.com looks a lot easier to use than many other wikis.  
Unfortunately it looks like it's locked into one particular company  
that may begin charging (which apparently Ning have started doing) or  
go bust. An open source wiki with the same usability of wikispaces  
would be better then we're not tied into a particular company -- if  
anyone knows of one?

Andrew

Dr Andrew Robinson
University of Manchester



On 3 Aug 2010, at 23:12, Jo Brodie wrote:

> Interesting ideas coming through - thank you.
>
> Although I'm not particularly wedded to the idea of a wiki I thought  
> I should highlight Wikispaces which doesn't use any fancy language.  
> It's basically like using Word (insert preferred text editor here)  
> and I made this with it - feel free to add a page and play around  
> with the editing.
>
> http://sciencecommunication.wikispaces.com/
>
> It's perhaps not ideal for what I'm suggesting, as it would soon be  
> a chaos of added pages - probably a content management system would  
> be better.
>
> I created that earlier this year and promptly forgot about it, as  
> will be abundantly obvious from its half-bakedness!
>
> Wouldn't mind if you didn't delete all the pages... but I can't stop  
> you as I've set it to 'anyone can edit' ;-)
>
> Jo
>
>
>
> On 3 Aug 2010, at 17:22, "Jon Manning" <[log in to unmask]>  
> wrote:
>
>> It's my experience that most non-technical users are extremely  
>> averse to wiki syntax- as I understand the term 'wiki'. Some of the  
>> more geek-centric groups I work with are happy with the idea, but  
>> others click edit, see that markup, and never come back.
>>
>> I get on very well with content management systems such as Drupal-  
>> you can implement all kinds of functionality and have it all in one  
>> place. Users can edit pages more easily, and they get a 'wysiwyg'  
>> interface with Word-like features they're familiar with. Plus the  
>> available plugins make available features you might not have  
>> thought of.
>>
>> Jon
>>
>>
>>
>> A Robinson wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> On the subject of sharing, I've been trying to design a mechanism  
>>> for Science Communication here in Manchester, but there's nothing  
>>> to stop it being a national thing too.
>>> So far the thinking is a mailing list, yahoo answers style Q&A,  
>>> wiki combination. -- We've looked around and can't find anything  
>>> that seems to solve the problem.
>>>
>>> Anyone else got any experiences, online sites for this sort of  
>>> thing that they particularly like? How do people feel about a wiki?
>>>
>>>
>>> Dr Andrew Robinson
>>> University of Manchester
>>>
>>> On 3 Aug 2010, at 16:45, Jo Brodie wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello all
>>>>
>>>> *1. Capturing useful psci-com information*
>>>>
>>>> Re: [PSCI-COM] Copyright and use of video clips in education  
>>>> sessions
>>>>
>>>> This sounds very useful Ruth, thanks for sharing.
>>>>
>>>> Do we capture this sort of information somewhere? I know it's  
>>>> searchable over at jiscmail.ac.uk but it seems like we could make  
>>>> it a bit easier to find. I seem to remember suggesting some sort  
>>>> of wiki-type of thing a while back but I'm afraid I've forgotten  
>>>> what was agreed, if anything - oops. Having said that I certainly  
>>>> don't want to give myself, or anyone else, any more work to do.
>>>>
>>>> I currently have my 'Sharepoint intranet trainer's' head on at  
>>>> work so am seeing everything as 'content' to be captured at the  
>>>> moment ;-)

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