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Re: Hands off our libraries!

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Frances Hendrix <[log in to unmask]>

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Frances Hendrix <[log in to unmask]>

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Thu, 26 Aug 2010 13:03:42 +0100

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take libraries out of local government. Make if the National Library Service
same standards throughout
national development
big power etc
Frances Hendrix
Martin House Farm, Hilltop Lane, Whittle le Woods, Chorley, Lancs PR6 7QR, 
UK
tel: 01257 274 833.  fax: 01257 266 488
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dash Graham" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2010 12:58 PM
Subject: Re: Hands off our libraries!


Frances is right - why not think nationally? There are so many variations of 
services provided by public libraries depending on each local authority. 
There's no consistency, and little joined up thinking. Many of the "rules" 
are different and certainly expenditure on stock varies considerably from 
authority to authority so attempting to join more than one authority 
together often becomes a political football.

The consortiums don't really answer this either as their members often have 
different configurations and rule sets, but they do provide a slightly more 
concerted front in other ways. So how do we get library authorities to 
become joined up? I haven't seen much evidence of this happening at the 
moment and there's little if no national direction behind anything that I 
can see.

Graham

Graham Dash, MCLIP, Library Services Manager (Systems & Development)
Environment & Leisure Group, Leisure & Libraries
London Borough of Sutton, Central Library, St Nicholas Way, SUTTON, Surrey 
SM1 1EA .

Tel.: 020 8770 4763, Mobile: 07515137830, Fax: 020 8770 4777

Borough web site: www.sutton.gov.uk/index.aspx?articleid=907
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-----Original Message-----
From: lis-pub-libs: UK Public Libraries [mailto:[log in to unmask]] 
On Behalf Of Frances Hendrix
Sent: 26 August 2010 12:28
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Subject: Re: Hands off our libraries!

Good sense as ever from Linda

But of course she was one of the  'Bright Young things David refers to, who 
contributed to the attached look at the future.

As with all things libraries, we seem to talk about it a lot, but change not 
so much, and in small clusters. Why not think Nationally, and get away from 
these councils and councilors, who get allocated the library brief often as 
the  as the short stick, and not out of a passion for libraries.
f
Frances Hendrix
Martin House Farm, Hilltop Lane, Whittle le Woods, Chorley, Lancs PR6 7QR, 
UK
tel: 01257 274 833.  fax: 01257 266 488
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Linda Berube" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2010 12:11 PM
Subject: Re: Hands off our libraries!


Hello

I have never liked the Amazon comparison although I think there are a few 
things to be learned from it, and one that is especially pertinent for 
public libraries:  the LoveFilm offer.  With Amazon, you can buy the film or 
rent it through LoveFilm (see 
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/subs/rentals/list-page/list.html).  There are a 
number of subscription deals as well as certain rules to ensure (as best 
they can) the return of the material.  Interestingly enough, no late fees.
So why not with books?  Buy it new, buy it used, or check it out from your 
nearest public library?  If libraries are really serious about being part of 
the digital environment and can acknowledge that there is quite a bit of 
competition for like services out there, they will have to change their 
business and service model--collectively, not one at a time.

How could libraries offer something like this?  Not by being Amazon, with 
the warehouse model (although we did talk about that a bit while Co-East was 
something of a force in the East of England), but by adopting the Interflora 
franchising model of service delivery. In other words, put in your request 
through Amazon to check the book out, and the request gets routed to the 
nearest library.  Subsciption services on line can be structured for 
sustainability and perhaps some income generation; local users coming 
through library doors still check the books out without charge.

Jo John and I even came up with a name and a slogan:  Don't be a plonker, 
PLinc it!  (as in Public Libraries Inc) I have gone into it in a bit more 
detail in my book "Do You Web 2.0?" (ruthless self-promotion, I know.
Please don't hold it against me).  By the way, Co-East also came up with a 
concept for a somewhat related service, an e-books commons, and we were 
working on user interaction as well as a collaborative e-book offer with 
Overdrive. Unfortunately, according to some people at the time, an idea 
before its time.

Risks are enormous, but judging from this spirited discussion so are the 
stakes.

Linda Berube


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