OK, to answer the original question, we do send copies by post and email
if people request it. We only ask for agreement that the information is
not kept beyond the length of the project so, in a sense, we are just
letting them look at it in the comfort of their own portakabin instead
of coming to the HER.
Chris Webster
Somerset County Council
Somerset Heritage Centre
Brunel Way
Taunton
TA2 6SH
01823 347434
Online HER: www.somerset.gov.uk/her
-----Original Message-----
From: Issues related to Historic Environment Records
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Emily Edwards
Sent: 17 August 2010 14:51
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Copyright and copying of reports etc
I think that just about covers it, really! Copyright is something that
we worry about when trying to get hold of information for use or
publication; I don't think I have ever heard anyone complaining about
their work having been copied. Using it, as Chris says, is another
matter.
This thread isn't really answering the original question anymore, is it?
:-)
Emily Edwards
On 17 Aug 2010, at 14:47, Chris Webster wrote:
> While most of the previous comments about the strict legalities of
> copyright are true - has anyone ever experienced anyone complaining
> about others copying their work? Most units expect to be able to copy
> other people's reports in the HER when they do searches, so it would
> be rather odd to prevent copying of theirs...
>
> That said, I would certainly get permission before publishing (ie
> putting on the web) anyone else's report.
>
> Chris Webster
>
> Somerset County Council
> Somerset Heritage Centre
> Brunel Way
> Taunton
> TA2 6SH
>
> 01823 347434
>
> Online HER: www.somerset.gov.uk/her
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Issues related to Historic Environment Records
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Brian Giggins
> Sent: 17 August 2010 14:30
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Copyright and copying of reports etc
>
> As an ex-HERO I am surprised that the briefs for the area do not
> contain clauses requiring that the archaeological reports produced as
> a result of PPG 16 / PPS 5a conditions are made available for public
> and professional dissemination after completion of the excavations. If
> they do not what is the point of the legislation and the large costs
> involved to the developers and public authorities? ADS appear to be
> doing excellent work making full copies of grey literature available
> on line - shouldn't others be following this lead?
>
> Regards
>
> Brian Giggins
>
> On 17/08/2010, Nick Boldrini <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> Hi HERO's
>>
>> this may be a can of worms....
>>
>> We regularly get contractors and other HER users asking us to send
>> them copies (either partial or total) of things either hard copy or
>> digitally - most commonly Grey Literature reports.
>>
>> My understanding is that legally, if the use is in any sense
>> commercial, then the researcher should not be allowed to copy the
>> material without the Copyright holders permission (see IFP 4.4
>> http://www.ifp-plus.info/Part_F.htm#F.4 for discussion).
>>
>> I am also aware that many HER's do allow commercial units to copy
>> material under the fair dealing principle of "no more than 10% /one
>> chapter" basis, which, I believe, strictly speaking only applies to
> non-commercial research.
>>
>> However, when we tell users this, some of them say "well other HER's
>> let us copy it all/send us a photocopy/send us a digital copy".
>>
>> I would be interested to know, either on or off list, how many HER's
>> do actually allow Contractors to copy information and on what basis.
>>
>> eg do you only let them copy stuff if they come in and do it
>> themselves, or do you routinely copy and send stuff out to them? If
>> the latter - do you charge for this? Do you use a Depositors licence
>> to get permission from a contractor to disseminate a report more
>> widely? Do you send/allow full copies or only partial ones?
>>
>> This is because we are looking at reviewing our Policy on this and
>> would be interested to see what practice across the sector is.
>>
>> best wishes
>>
>> Nick Boldrini
>>
>> Historic Environment Record Officer
>> Ext: 8840
>>
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