Hi Sally, good summary of discussion and good proposal. Where would this meeting on the 8th October take place - I mean for those who do not belong to the inner circle of the psychology ranks but are perching outside the castle walls or even outside the moat?
Michael.
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Subject: Re: [COMMUNITYPSYCHUK] Objectives achieved
Hello again everyone,
As Carl has said, this decision has been a great catalyst for debate, thanks to everyone for their contributions and I can also see the powerful arguments on each side. As the BPS go-between, I am certainly not any less concerned about the issues and feel ambivalent in much the same way.
We discussed at the Plymouth conference that the section's go-ahead is likely to lead to further debate about Community Psychologist's approval of the section and its role... and that will keep us all on track.
In the spirit of democracy, albeit with a limited group, I have counted:
10 people in favour of setting a fee now (initials of people: RP (off list), EB, AM, ED, CH, NS, JL, JC, JB, SZ)
3 against (PD, DF, MH)
and taken 5 as approximating abstentions (GA, AM, MG, WF, FC)
Please do check I am representing you correctly. Apologies if I do get anything wrong, I am doing this at work!
Thus without wanting to give any one list member's argument priority, the vote would suggest we set the fee.
However, I am now waiting for a telephone call from BPS senior management. I am trying to find out whether we can wait to make this decision until after the inaugural meeting/surveying of members - i.e. if we can have our fee approved by the Board of Trustees in an 'extraordinary' meeting at a later date. I have explained that we want to make decisions in a participatory way and that the current BPS structure is not allowing us to do this. Maybe at least this will set the precedence of showing that we plan to do things differently! I'm not sure if it will come to anything.
Friday October 8th is set for the inaugural meeting of the section if it does go ahead. This will be advertised to the section supporters and in The Psychologist. However, the section business is only expected to take up to 2 hours.
Can I therefore suggest those interested in creating the non-BPS co-operative also attend the meeting and this is what we do as a group first? Maybe this will start the ball rolling? We can initiate discussions about what this would look like on the discussion forum, as previously suggested.
I also thought we could perhaps adopt a collective decision-making tool - for use online and at the meetings. My suggestion would be something like 'Crowd-wise' created by the New Economics Foundation (NEF), it is a tool for allowing everyone's voices to be heard, but coming up with the decision that best represents the majority opinions, but helpfully moves away from 'black & white' poloarised decisions.
I don't think I can attach documents but please see here for the report on this tool: http://www.neweconomics.org/projects/crowd-wise
If people are interested I could ask NEF if they'd be willing to come along on Friday 8th and teach us how to use the tool.
I'll be in touch with regards my talk with senior management.
Best wishes,
Sally
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