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"Holding BPS Members to account"

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Erica Brostoff <[log in to unmask]>

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The UK Community Psychology Discussion List <[log in to unmask]>

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Tue, 24 Aug 2010 09:00:34 +0100

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Dear All,
I have sent an e-mail to the Manager of the BPS London office  
requesting that he look into overflow facilities into a second room,  
as a general issue, and mentioned the Community Psychology meeting on  
October 8th, in case there are more people wishing to attend than  
could be accommodated at present.  And so that in future it might be  
possible to have joint meetings with those who are, and those who are  
not BPS members.  As I mentioned in an earlier post, meetings in the  
BPS offices are normally oversubscribed at present and the maximum  
accommodation is 80.  As it happens, I also live, rather than work,  
near the BPS offices, and have requested a ticket, as a BPS member.

However, David's suggestion that "the collective should hold the BPS  
membership to account" seems to me unrealistic, either at this  
meeting or in future.   David is a BPS member of long standing I  
believe, and probably is aware that the idea of a collective  
alongside a BPS Section is likely to be a novel one.   Apparently  
2,700 approx. BPS members voted for this Section, and
any major issues regarding the Section are likely to be voted upon by  
those who become members of the Community Section, who are also BPS  
members.

"A dialogue between BPS members and non-members" is a realistic  
option, but to start out thinking that the collective (not yet  
formed) can hold the BPS Section to account is starting on a path to  
possible confrontation which the Community list could not win.   This  
would be arising out of style rather than substance, and I do think  
that the language in which such a dialogue is proposed is crucial, as  
are the expectations.   Sensible BPS members who are interested in  
setting up a BPS Community Psychology Section will want to learn from  
others working in the field but they will not be bound by their views  
collectively or otherwise.    So, I think it would be sensible for  
people to start posting on this list what they would like the BPS  
Section to achieve,
so that the meeting on October 8th is a productive one and not  
confrontational.   These would surely be in the form of  
recommendations, keeping in mind that the collective will not "own"  
the Section, nor, indeed, the other way around.

For one thing, to come back  to fees, which are essential to be set  
if anyone is actually to join the Section,  I know now that the BPS  
Board officials have set a fee which is the average of other  
Sections, and I expect that they will be entitled to insist upon  
this, in the absence of a vote from ALL the people who wish to join  
who are BPS members,.  This would not occur until about a year hence  
or longer.   It would not be proper or normal for non-BPS members to  
set the fee for BPS members, if you think about it, in relation to  
any other section.   I am just as interested in a harmonious outcome  
as anyone else, but you might as well start trying to dictate to the  
Department of Health, in my view, as assume you can do so to the BPS,  
unless you are a member, and then it would be through proposals and  
voting of all members and it would be a request or a recommendation  
only.

How about proposing some mechanism whereby one non-BPS member could  
have an advisory seat on the BPS Committee, by co-option, who would  
represent the views of the collective, and see whether the BPS would  
accept this idea.  In this case it might be a reasonable proposal,  
since there might be benefits in both directions.

Erica

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