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> Datum: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 16:34:06 +0100
> Von: Jake Stratton-Kent <[log in to unmask]>
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> Betreff: Re: [ACADEMIC-STUDY-MAGIC] Golden Dawn origins?
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> Ninurta/Uriel to the left, dunno, Uriel is such a complex character,
> but Ninurta does have a journey to the Underworld, which fits with
> some of Uriel's darker associations (and he has plenty!)
>
> Quite a promising start, though I'd happily defer to more qualified
> folks (more comfortable with Greco-Roman/Grimoire crossovers myself).
>
> ALWays
>
> Jake
>
> http://www.underworld-apothecary.com/
Hrm, Ninurta has a netherworld journey? *looks confused*
I'd use the connection of Uriel/Auriel to Earth to get to Ninurta; Ninurta wasn't merely a warrior, but early on in his development was a deity of the plough (which can also be seen in his iconography on cylinder seals from Akkadian II onwards); F.A.M. Wiggermann wrote in his article 'Transtigridian Snake Gods' in CM7 (Styx Publications, 1997) p.33 the following:
"To the North lie the farming regions whose gods are associated with cereals and agricultural implements, Enlil (in Nippur), Ninlil/Sud (in Tummal), Nissaba (in Ereš), Ninĝirsu (in Girsu), Baba (in Uruku), Ninisina (in Isin), Pabilsag (in Badtibira; later as husband of Ninisina in Isin) and Meslamtaea (in Kutha). The gods of this group are marked by their pronounced fierceness."
'Pronounced fierceness' certainly fits well with the protective and yet fierce aspect I have always associated with Uriel, and the original agricultural associations with plough and earth would fit nicely into the conception of Uriel and his underworld connections, as the earth was always considered to be a chtonic thing to the Mesopotamians; also, closely related to this group of deities (note: Meslamtaea = Nergal) are the gods of the 'southern orchards' (according to Jacobsen; Wiggermann sets them to the East (!) in the transtigridian region), which are all chtonic snake- and netherworld-deities (i.e. Ereškigal etc.).
Does that sound as if I need more sleep or does it make any sense at all?
- Nadia
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