italian-studies: Scholarly discussions in any field of Italian studies
Der Professor Schmidt,
Thank you for the suggestion. The question would then be: when does
the textually constructed Italy start being instrumental to the
legitimation of the subject of description-construction? Or: when does
the objectified Italy start accepting such objectified identity as a
self-marketing tool?
Andrea Malaguti
Quoting Arnold Schmidt <[log in to unmask]>:
> italian-studies: Scholarly discussions in any field of Italian studies
>
> Re "writing 'Italianism'" (i.e. the study of a textually constructed
> Italy comparable to Said's study of a textually constructed Orient),
> I've often thought that Grand Tour studies generally started that
> discussion. Certainly, key stereotypes of Italians began to emerge
> with travel writing by non-Italians (and by Italians from one region of
> the peninsula traveling to another region), as well as by images of
> Italy in paintings and prints. And let's not forget the theatre --
> Shakespeare's Italians among them -- and opera!
>
>
>
> On 7/19/2010 9:55 AM, Andrea Malaguti wrote:
>> italian-studies: Scholarly discussions in any field of Italian studies
>>
>> I could add "Pomodoro!" by David Gentilcore, a recently published
>> history of the Italian tomato, and Pier Paolo Pasolini's "La
>> ricotta" and Marco Ferreri's "La grande abbuffata."
>>
>> I have a problem with all this, though. I read Gian Paolo Biasin's
>> "The Flavors of Modernity" and a good deal of Piero Camporesi's
>> books, and found them exceptional. (My thanks to Manuela Gieri for
>> a crucial suggestion on food in film: I will get a hold of that
>> book ASAP.)
>>
>> It is not really comforting, at least in my opinion, that almost
>> all scholarly discussion on Italian studies keeps focusing only on
>> food, (reborn) fascism, racism, and/or general backwardness. as if
>> all Italians spent their time eating, fancying a new dictator,
>> bashing immigrants, and indulging into the prejudices of their
>> grandparents. Are we back to Edward Banfield?
>>
>> I am informed enough about the lamentable state of Italy today.
>> Yet, last week in New York Pier Luigi Bersani, current secretary of
>> the Italian Democratic Party (PD), clearly said: "Esiste anche
>> un'altra Italia." I assume he alluded to the democratic side of
>> Italy, the one that keeps protesting against political corruption
>> and organized crime and wants to preserve some integrity. It still
>> exists. When shall we talk about it? (Curiously, the past
>> representatives of such side of Italy were not at all keen on
>> eating: Alcide De Gasperi was very moderate even at the dinner
>> table, Indro Montanelli almost had no appetite, Marco Pannella,
>> still living, is well known for his hunger strikes...)
>>
>> Then: CUI PRODEST? Why should we indulge in the fetish of Italy as
>> an open-sky restaurant? ("Eat, Pray, Love") Why should Italy
>> satisfy the need of exoticism for those who, for such purpose,
>> cannot use neither the Far East, since China owns the 25% of the US
>> national debt, nor the Middle East? Edward Said efficiently
>> addressed the disparaging habit of exoticism in his "Orientalisms."
>> When shall we find the courage to write "Italianisms"?
>>
>> Thank you for your consideration
>> Andrea Malaguti
>>
>> Quoting "Oldcorn, Anthony" <[log in to unmask]>:
>>
>>> italian-studies: Scholarly discussions in any field of Italian studies
>>>
>>> It might be interesting to take a look at the program "University
>>> Masters in Gastronomy and Tourism" offered by the Universita'
>>> degli Studi di Scienze Gastronomiche in Pollenzo, Piedmont
>>> (sponsored by Carlo Petrini and Slow Food). The program looks
>>> like a bit of a grab bag, but some areas might prove more
>>> relevant and helpful than others. The online description is in
>>> English:
>>>
>>> http://www.unisg.it/download/guide/Guida_Master_IGT.pdf
>>>
>>> I can't recall whether John Dickie's book Delizia. The Epic Story
>>> of Italians and Their Food (Sceptre, 2008) has already been
>>> mentioned (Italian trans. Con gusto. Storia degli italiani a
>>> tavola, Bari, Laterza).
>>>
>>> Then there are the works of the late Piero Camporesi
>>> (www.disitlec.unibo.it/NR/rdonlyres/.../PieroCamporesi_Biografia.pdf).
>>>
>>> Nobody seems to have picked up on the music part of the original
>>> request. Let me get the ball(s) rolling (so to speak) by
>>> mentioning Gerard Corbiau's Farinelli, the romanticized story of
>>> Carlo Broschi, the greatest castrato of the 18th-century circuit.
>>> His onscreen singing voice was obtained by combining the voice
>>> of a female soprano and that of a countertenor.
>>>
>>> Tony Oldcorn
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Messaggio originale-----
>>> Da: Scholarly discussions in any field of Italian studies per
>>> conto di Lidia Ciccone
>>> Inviato: dom 7/18/2010 10:54
>>> A: [log in to unmask]
>>> Oggetto: Re: [I-S] Italian Culture through food and movies
>>>
>>> italian-studies: Scholarly discussions in any field of Italian studies
>>>
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>> thanks for all your suggestions. Here there's a summary of the movies
>>> suggested. Most of them, to my knowledge, do not have english subtitles
>>> that are necessary (at least if I would like to show the entire movie)
>>> for students who do not speak or understand any italian. The course is
>>> designed to expose Freshman students to italian culture (and I thought
>>> of food as a fundamental "cultural marker":
>>> Grazie mille,
>>>
>>> Lidia Ciccone
>>>
>>> Big Night
>>> Pranzo di Ferragosto
>>> GodFather
>>> Il Gattopardo
>>> Miseria e Nobilta' (and many more of Toto' movies)
>>> La Cena
>>> Un Americano a Roma
>>> La Storia di Ragazzi e Ragazze (Pupi Avati)
>>> Pasolini's Decameron
>>> C'eravamo tanto amati, La Terrazza (Ettore Scola)
>>>
>>> A very useful book is:
>>>
>>> Dalla fame all'abbondanza. Gli italiani e il cibo nel cinema italiano
>>> dal dopoguerra ad oggi, di Viviana Lapertosa (Lindau, 2002)
>>>
>>>
>>> Quoting Leslie Zarker-Morgan <[log in to unmask]>:
>>>
>>>> italian-studies: Scholarly discussions in any field of Italian
>>>> studies
>>>>
>>>> Could Lidia, the original requester perhaps summarize what the final
>>>> program is? It would be interesting to see the list!
>>>> Leslie
>>>>
>>>> Dr. L. Zarker Morgan
>>>> Professor of Italian and French
>>>> Chair, Department of Modern Languages and Literatures
>>>> Coordinator, Italian Studies Minor
>>>> Coordinator, Medieval Studies Minor
>>>>
>>>> Loyola University Maryland
>>>> 4501 North Charles Street
>>>> Baltimore, MD 21210-2699 USA
>>>>
>>>> tel. 410-617-2926
>>>> fax. 410-617-2859
>>>> email: [log in to unmask]
>>>>
>>>> homepage: http://evergreen.loyola.edu/lmorgan/www
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Scholarly discussions in any field of Italian studies
>>>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Alex Bamji
>>>> Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 3:15 AM
>>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>>> Subject: Re: [I-S] Italian Culture through food and movies
>>>>
>>>> italian-studies: Scholarly discussions in any field of Italian
>>>> studies
>>>>
>>>> Hi Lidia,
>>>>
>>>> Pranzo di ferragosto might be good (it's a wonderful film).
>>>> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1277728/
>>>>
>>>> Alex
>>>>
>>>> Dr Alexandra Bamji
>>>> Lecturer in Early Modern History
>>>> School of History
>>>> University of Leeds
>>>> Leeds LS2 9JT
>>>> t: 0113 34 33602
>>>> e: [log in to unmask]
>>>> ________________________________________
>>>> From: Scholarly discussions in any field of Italian studies
>>>> [[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Lidia Ciccone
>>>> [[log in to unmask]]
>>>> Sent: 17 July 2010 21:00
>>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>>> Subject: [I-S] Italian Culture through food and movies
>>>>
>>>> italian-studies: Scholarly discussions in any field of Italian
>>>> studies
>>>>
>>>> Hello all,
>>>>
>>>> I am thinking of offering a course on Italian Culture through
>>>> movies,
>>>> food and music this Fall. I was wondering if anyone had any
>>>> suggestions/advice regarding movies in which food and/or music gives
>>>> an
>>>> expression of Italian culture (or of a particular region within the
>>>> italian peninsula). The movies should have english subtitles since
>>>> the
>>>> course is addressed to Freshmen who did not study any italian.
>>>>
>>>> Please feel free to e-mail me off-list if this seems off-topic!
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Lidia Ciccone
>>>> [log in to unmask]
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> "Always laugh when you can. It is cheap medicine" L. Byron
>>>> Lidia Ciccone
>>>> Department of Modern Languages and Classics
>>>> BB Comer 215
>>>> University of Alabama
>>>> Tuscaloosa, AL
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>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> "Always laugh when you can. It is cheap medicine" L. Byron
>>>
>>> Lidia Ciccone
>>> Full Time Temporary Instructor
>>> Department of Modern Languages and Classics
>>> BB Comer 215
>>> University of Alabama
>>> Tuscaloosa, AL
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> California State University
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