ssh may not be necessary, (al)pine can be configured to connect to a POP3 or
IMAP server, one of which a reasonable mail server would probably offer.
Tim
On Fri, Jul 02, 2010 at 05:27:24PM -0400, Ed Pozharski wrote:
> pine is quite handy if you can ssh to your email server (Brandeis allows
> that, for instance). Uses very little resources, fast, and poses zero
> danger of ever executing a malicious code. There is very little
> functionality added in other email clients. I don't use pine anymore,
> but there is no need to give it bad name. And you can use colors
> a-la-matrix :)
>
> On Fri, 2010-07-02 at 20:40 +0200, Flip Hoedemaeker wrote:
> > Anyone still on PINE should consider a new email application :)
> >
> > Flip
> >
> > On 7/2/2010 20:29, Tim Gruene wrote:
> > > I agree to this.
> > > What are the actual reasons against attachments?
> > > If one really has a slow network connection and cannot use IMAP instead of POP3
> > > (if I understand correctly, with IMAP one does not need to download the emails
> > > until one actually wants to read them, but I may be wrong here, too), would it
> > > be a compromise to restrict image sizes to e.g. 500kB?
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, Jul 02, 2010 at 01:35:57PM -0400, Douglas Jacobsen wrote:
> > >> My opinion is that attached images in bb posts should be allowed:
> > >> 1) Storage& network bandwidth is cheap
> > >> 2) Attached (even inline) images are convenient to understanding the
> > >> question/issue at hand
> > >> 3) Emails are very easily deleted
> > >> 4) If images are to be "attached" via web-links, then it may not be
> > >> possible to refer to them appropriately in the archives if the images
> > >> are ever removed from the hosting server. - it seems to me that the
> > >> archive of the bb is an excellent resource, but is diminished if the
> > >> content can not be maintained centrally.
> > >>
> > >> -Doug
> > >>
> > >> On 7/2/2010 11:04 AM, Frances C. Bernstein wrote:
> > >>> Why not put images, maps, or data files on your own web page
> > >>> and then send out a link to that material? Then the e-mails
> > >>> are small and anyone that wants to see the files has easy
> > >>> access.
> > >>>
> > >>> Frances Bernstein
> > >>>
> > >>> =====================================================
> > >>> **** Bernstein + Sons
> > >>> * * Information Systems Consultants
> > >>> **** 5 Brewster Lane, Bellport, NY 11713-2803
> > >>> * * ***
> > >>> **** * Frances C. Bernstein
> > >>> * *** [log in to unmask]
> > >>> *** *
> > >>> * *** 1-631-286-1339 FAX: 1-631-286-1999
> > >>> =====================================================
> > >>>
> > >>> On Fri, 2 Jul 2010, Tim Gruene wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> Maybe this netiquette is a little outdated. Sending a few MB to
> > >>>> thousands of
> > >>>> people is probably not much more than noise compared to current net
> > >>>> traffic.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> There is the IMAP protocol which overcomes the problem of modem
> > >>>> connections,
> > >>>> which anyhow probably only affects a very, very small amount of
> > >>>> people nowadays,
> > >>>> and there are plenty of mail user agents which do not have a
> > >>>> paperclip button,
> > >>>> e.g. mutt, pine, etc, which address the very same problem.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> It's is a lot easier to show a jpg-image a few kB in size than to
> > >>>> attempt to
> > >>>> describe what you see with words.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Anyhow, the FAQ
> > >>>> (http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html#formats) the
> > >>>> CCP4 netiquette (http://www.ccp4.ac.uk/ccp4bb.php#using) refers to
> > >>>> explicitly
> > >>>> allows MIME attachments, even though I also conside MIME outdated and am
> > >>>> extremely glad I do not need to fiddle with uu-en/de-code anymore.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Again: maybe it's time to update the CCP4 netiquette.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Tim
> > >>>>
> > >>>> P.S.: I wonder how much traffic this email will induce ;-)
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On Fri, Jul 02, 2010 at 09:33:01AM -0400, Ed Pozharski wrote:
> > >>>>> Several recent posts with decently sized attachments (now in cross eyed
> > >>>>> stereo too!) prompt this (annual?) anti-paperclip-button rant. Lucky
> > >>>>> for me, I can just recycle the old messages:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> [log in to unmask]" target="_blank">http:[log in to unmask]
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Cheers from the self-appointed thought police,
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Ed.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> --
> > >>>>> "I'd jump in myself, if I weren't so good at whistling."
> > >>>>> Julian, King of Lemurs
> > >>>>
> > >>>> --
> > >>>> --
> > >>>> Tim Gruene
> > >>>> Institut fuer anorganische Chemie
> > >>>> Tammannstr. 4
> > >>>> D-37077 Goettingen
> > >>>>
> > >>>> GPG Key ID = A46BEE1A
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >
>
> --
> Edwin Pozharski, PhD, Assistant Professor
> University of Maryland, Baltimore
> ----------------------------------------------
> When the Way is forgotten duty and justice appear;
> Then knowledge and wisdom are born along with hypocrisy.
> When harmonious relationships dissolve then respect and devotion arise;
> When a nation falls to chaos then loyalty and patriotism are born.
> ------------------------------ / Lao Tse /
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Tim Gruene
Institut fuer anorganische Chemie
Tammannstr. 4
D-37077 Goettingen
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