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Re: There goes your free copy of.............

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"Richard Jones [Pathology]" <[log in to unmask]>

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Take a look at MSCUI and look at the SNOMED integration into Word

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From: IT working group of the Association of Clinical Biochemists [[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Jonathan Kay [[log in to unmask]]
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Subject: Re: There goes your free copy of.............

Please tell us more about "Microsoft solutions using the common office components"...

I know about
* Our clinical intranet approach, and webbish systems in general
* Primary care IS and the extraordinary proliferation of middleware they now need on top of the core system
* Large commercial EPRs

... is this the sort of thing you mean?

Jonathan

On 16 Jul 2010, at 14:55, Webster Craig wrote:

Its a good point. I did read somewhere that a significant proportion in the functionality of software like Word wasn’t used. It would be a change in practice but it would be “do able” I think. A lot of our clinical systems are based around Microsoft solutions using the common office components. I wouldn’t see much movement on this in the coming years to be honest.


Cheers
Craig


On 15/07/2010 17:49, "Richard Jones [Pathology]" <[log in to unmask]<UrlBlockedError.aspx>> wrote:



Ok for the it cogniescenti. What about my secretary (if I has one)?

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Subject: Re: There goes your free copy of.............

I use Excel from Office and like you tend to write straight into text. I’m tend to use BBedit but I think there are some free alternatives (Text wrangler from the same company) or more increasingly Omnioutliner (Great for meetings). Looking at the way I tend to access information, formats such as word and to a lesser extent PDF feel like they lock away information. One thing worth looking at for having searchable PDF’s however is Evernote ( http://www.evernote.com/) which will do OCR of  scanned in documents as well and make them searchable.

The web workflow is very interesting and would take quite a culture change (one that’s worth doing though). A recent podcast illustrated a number of writing workflows: ( http://macpowerusers.com/ workflows with Jason Snell, also the one with Merlin Mann – in fact I would recommend Merlin Mann’s work to everyone about time management etc at http://www.43folders.com/)

I think the web workflow has a number of attractions:


 1.  Write once – publish almost anywhere – print, online etc
 2.  Pretty much open source – low cost
 3.  Universally accessible – any device / any location

Which I think we should mention Google docs: http://www.google.com/google-d-s/intl/en/tour1.html

One final potential tip is markdown http://daringfireball.net/projects/markdown/ which appears to be gaining a lot of popularity amongst “bloggers” i.e. People publishing mainly online.

Cheers
Craig


On 15/07/2010 14:20, "Jonathan Kay" <[log in to unmask]<UrlBlockedError.aspx>> wrote:

I use MS Office.

I agree about Keynote but use MS PowerPoint because I'm going to end up projecting using other people's apps. (I could work in Keynote and then present in PowerPoint but then the conversion might not work and I'd also end up being even more aware of the difference in quality... )

But I do nearly all my writing in Mail.app or TextEdit. And don't feel the need to wrap my text in a Word document before emailing it.

And on OS X it's so easy to convert anything into a PDF file.

Most of my organisation's Word and Excel documents contain information that would be better handled in webbish workflow systems.

Jonathan



On 15 Jul 2010, at 14:03, Webster Craig wrote:

My small contribution

My experience of Open Office ( http://www.openoffice.org/ ) has been mixed and haven't visited it in a while. I’ve used it on the Mac, Linux and Windows platforms. But I would say that for general use it is very useful and compares well with Microsoft Office.  The only issue I had I think was the the user interface felt a little dated and confusing in some areas (particularly if you use the Mac version). Importantly it can read Word files.

The only other word processing software I’ve used is Pages on the Mac which I think is very good. It comes as part of the iwork package ( http://www.apple.com/iwork/pages/) which also includes the far better presentation package Keynote (in my opinion!). Not open source but good value at £71.

Any other suggestions?

Cheers
Craig



On 15/07/2010 13:40, "Jonathan Kay" <[log in to unmask]<UrlBlockedError.aspx> <x-msg:[log in to unmask]<UrlBlockedError.aspx>> > wrote:

Would this be a good opportunity to share experiences of open source and other alternatives to Microsoft Office?

Jonathan

On 15 Jul 2010, at 11:36, Richard Jones [Pathology] wrote:

http://www.computerweekly.com/Articles/2010/07/14/241977/Government-scraps-16380m-Microsoft-licensing-deal-with.htm

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