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Re: Magic & Empiricism.

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Caduceus Books <[log in to unmask]>

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Society for The Academic Study of Magic <[log in to unmask]>

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Wed, 7 Jul 2010 22:50:22 +0100

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Greetings!


>I do however feel rather alienated by the 'skeptic' movement, despite
>admiring James Randi, as I find it is by definition an ideological
>mindset rather than a truly scientific perspective. I thus find myself
>in a quandary. Am I a believer or just someone into fanciful ideas?
>This leads me onto another thought. If magic is 'real', can it be
>proven? By that, I mean can magical events be quantified, can these
>results be falsified and can such findings survive vigorous peer
>review?

For reasons that a sceptic would accept, I think magic thrived (and 
continues to be practiced) because it worked, or people had the 
perception that it did.

If we consider something as physical and measurable, such as how quickly 
a wound heals, there are four factors:-

1) Natural healing ability of the body
2) Drugs that can aid healing
3) Surgical intervention
4) The placebo effect

Thinking back to times when magic was more prevalent, (1) was unchanged, 
(2) and (3) could do more harm than good. Magic is the fine art of the 
placebo effect. This would be powerful. Modern drug tests have to 
quantify it so that it can be factored out as its effect can match a 
promising new drug. This when the subjects are being told "we are 
experimenting with this new drug, it may not work and you might have 
been given a placebo anyway". How much more powerful might the placebo 
effect people if people believe saint, a wonderful human being now 
living with God, has been called upon by someone with authority to 
intercede and aid the healing.

I think related are the powers of a hypnotist, or hypnotherapist, that 
would also be accepted by a sceptic. The magician, cunning man, or 
witch, could have same abilities. I have wondered how hypnotism 
techniques compare to spells and magical techniques. There can be 
similarities between the powers attributed to witches and those 
displayed by stage hypnotists.

I think magic, spells, talismans and so forth, was particularly 
associated with fields if human experience where the placebo effect 
would be most potent. Healing (and encouraging illness), affairs of the 
heart where confidence can be important and controlling animals.

In other fields the effectiveness of such magical techniques might be 
apparent rather than real. Many old seamen and soldiers might have a 
charm to which they attribute their survival. The sceptic would agree, 
and observe that probably the ones who didn't come back had charms too, 
people just never heard about them.

Magic thrived in fields where people wanted to disguise secret 
manipulations. A gambler would be pleased to attribute his incredible 
success to his talisman, rather than for the losers to start checking 
for marked or extra cards. Horsemen did not own the means of production, 
but they controlled it to their economic advantage. They were pleased 
for their masters to attribute it to secret words of power and 
talismanic bones, rather than the secret use of scents, drugs and thin 
strings controlling the animals.

I imagine the above would be agreeable to a sceptic.

Personally I could include other factors. A very brief  experience years 
ago means I know telepathy can occur. Another series of experiences 
convinces me that disincarnate intelligences can operate. However, this, 
quite rightly, carries no weight for the sceptic. They were not there. 
They only have my account and I could be deceitful or a deluded 
fantasist. So many accounts of supernatural events are untrue.

My best wishes

Ben
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