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Re: Inconsistent orientations for individual images in pipeline

From:

wolf zinke <[log in to unmask]>

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FSL - FMRIB's Software Library <[log in to unmask]>

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Fri, 9 Jul 2010 15:55:25 +0200

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text/plain (109 lines) , scan_08_pp_dilmask.txt (69 lines) , scan_08_pp_norm.txt (69 lines)

Hi Mark,

attached are two files with the output of fslhd. Indeed they show a 
difference, which is getting even more puzzling for me. In the 
preprocessing I create a new header with fslcreatehd, and both images 
should be alligned to this header via a flirt command with the reference 
image being the one with the new header. But maybe I oversee something 
there at the moment, since I use several custom scripts that I need to 
go through more carefully to identify a possible reason of this 
difference. If necessary, I can check this to figure out, why the 
headers become different.

Thanks,
wolf

Mark Jenkinson wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Can you send us the output of fslhd run on the following files:
>   /XTRA/tossi/morph_DMS/2009_03_05/scan_08/scan_08_pp_norm
> and
>  /XTRA/tossi/morph_DMS/2009_03_05/scan_08/scan_08_pp_dilmask.nii.gz
>
> It is possible that these have either slightly different coordinate 
> definitions,
> in which case there is nothing to worry about, or they are seriously
> different in which case there is a problem.
>
> This is a new warning in 4.1.6 that is explicitly designed to detect such
> problems, but is possibly too sensitive.
>
> If you send us the fslhd output above then I will be able to decide.
>
> All the best,
>     Mark
>
>
> On 8 Jul 2010, at 19:05, wolf zinke wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I noticed that the same warning occurs also for the post stats, 
>> indicating that there is something with my mask. Anyway, since this 
>> is just a dilated mask I don't think that this is a serious problem. 
>> But still strange why this now appears. Is there a new test routine 
>> in the new FSL patch that explains that I never noticed this warning 
>> before?
>>
>> thanks,
>> wolf
>>
>> /GLOCAL/fsl/bin/fslmaths thresh_zstat1 -mas 
>> /XTRA/tossi/morph_DMS/2009_03_05/scan_08/scan_08_pp_dilmask.nii.gz 
>> thresh_zstat1
>>
>> WARNING:: Inconsistent orientations for individual images in pipeline!
>>         Will use voxel-based orientation which is probably incorrect 
>> - *PLEASE CHECK*!
>>
>>
>> wolf zinke wrote:
>>> Hi Mark,
>>>
>>> Sure I can give you the log file. I attached the whole file.
>>>
>>> Thanks for the help,
>>> wolf
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Mark Jenkinson wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> This might be serious but probably isn't.
>>>> Can you send the appropriate portion of the log file so
>>>> that we can see the context of when this warning occurs?
>>>>
>>>> All the best,
>>>>    Mark
>>>>
>>>> On 8 Jul 2010, at 18:03, wolf zinke wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi
>>>>>
>>>>> I run a batch of feat analyses on the same subject. So in 
>>>>> principle everything should be the same for each analysis (except 
>>>>> the functional volume and the event files of course). However, I 
>>>>> get now warnings in the feat2_pre logfile:
>>>>>
>>>>> WARNING:: Inconsistent orientations for individual images in 
>>>>> pipeline!
>>>>>        Will use voxel-based orientation which is probably 
>>>>> incorrect - *PLEASE CHECK*!
>>>>>
>>>>> Is this a new feature of the patch? What exactly does this mean, 
>>>>> and what am I supposed to check now? I would be highly confused if 
>>>>> this means, that there is something like a left-right flip in the 
>>>>> data (it should be everythere in such a case).
>>>>>
>>>>> Any pointer to help me out?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks a lot,
>>>>> wolf
>>>>>
>>>
>>




filename scan_08_pp_dilmask.nii.gz sizeof_hdr 348 data_type UINT8 dim0 3 dim1 50 dim2 60 dim3 40 dim4 1 dim5 1 dim6 1 dim7 1 vox_units mm time_units s datatype 2 nbyper 1 bitpix 8 pixdim0 0.0000000000 pixdim1 1.5000000000 pixdim2 1.5000000000 pixdim3 1.5000000000 pixdim4 1.0000000000 pixdim5 0.0000000000 pixdim6 0.0000000000 pixdim7 0.0000000000 vox_offset 352 cal_max 1.0000 cal_min 0.0000 scl_slope 0.000000 scl_inter 0.000000 phase_dim 0 freq_dim 0 slice_dim 0 slice_name Unknown slice_code 0 slice_start 0 slice_end 0 slice_duration 0.000000 time_offset 0.000000 intent Unknown intent_code 0 intent_name intent_p1 0.000000 intent_p2 0.000000 intent_p3 0.000000 qform_name Aligned Anat qform_code 2 qto_xyz:1 -1.499111 0.023354 0.046047 34.313286 qto_xyz:2 0.021825 1.499017 -0.049729 -31.446194 qto_xyz:3 0.046791 0.049029 1.498468 -7.431565 qto_xyz:4 0.000000 0.000000 0.000000 1.000000 qform_xorient Right-to-Left qform_yorient Posterior-to-Anterior qform_zorient Inferior-to-Superior sform_name Aligned Anat sform_code 2 sto_xyz:1 -1.498825 0.014839 0.048229 34.313286 sto_xyz:2 0.029876 1.552485 -0.083700 -31.446194 sto_xyz:3 0.044101 0.015507 1.490551 -7.431565 sto_xyz:4 0.000000 0.000000 0.000000 1.000000 sform_xorient Right-to-Left sform_yorient Posterior-to-Anterior sform_zorient Inferior-to-Superior file_type NIFTI-1+ file_code 1 descrip FSL4.0 aux_file
filename scan_08_pp_norm.nii.gz sizeof_hdr 348 data_type FLOAT32 dim0 4 dim1 50 dim2 60 dim3 40 dim4 750 dim5 1 dim6 1 dim7 1 vox_units mm time_units s datatype 16 nbyper 4 bitpix 32 pixdim0 0.0000000000 pixdim1 1.5000000000 pixdim2 1.5000000000 pixdim3 1.5000000000 pixdim4 1.8300000429 pixdim5 0.0000000000 pixdim6 0.0000000000 pixdim7 0.0000000000 vox_offset 352 cal_max 1891.9297 cal_min 0.0000 scl_slope 1.000000 scl_inter 0.000000 phase_dim 0 freq_dim 0 slice_dim 0 slice_name Unknown slice_code 0 slice_start 0 slice_end 0 slice_duration 0.000000 time_offset 0.000000 intent Unknown intent_code 0 intent_name intent_p1 0.000000 intent_p2 0.000000 intent_p3 0.000000 qform_name Scanner Anat qform_code 1 qto_xyz:1 -1.496775 -0.070926 -0.068066 47.211300 qto_xyz:2 0.071224 -0.066591 -1.496828 11.907200 qto_xyz:3 -0.067754 1.496842 -0.069816 -25.746901 qto_xyz:4 0.000000 0.000000 0.000000 1.000000 qform_xorient Right-to-Left qform_yorient Inferior-to-Superior qform_zorient Anterior-to-Posterior sform_name Scanner Anat sform_code 1 sto_xyz:1 -1.531990 -0.090340 -0.069169 47.211300 sto_xyz:2 0.071405 -0.062002 -1.513580 11.907200 sto_xyz:3 -0.047566 1.467970 -0.073048 -25.746901 sto_xyz:4 0.000000 0.000000 0.000000 1.000000 sform_xorient Right-to-Left sform_yorient Inferior-to-Superior sform_zorient Anterior-to-Posterior file_type NIFTI-1+ file_code 1 descrip FSL4.0 aux_file

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