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Subject:

Deep Level/HalkynDeep Level/new info.

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Bernard Moore <[log in to unmask]>

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Sun, 20 Jun 2010 15:29:12 EDT

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Dear All,
 
Having now had a little time to go over this matter there is a bit of a  
puzzle. The vols. that have been referred to are shown at the end of this  
Post.
 
I have looked through the following vols. to attempt to find ref.:  
Williams, C.J., Metal Mines of North Wales 1980: Burt, R, John Taylor, 1977:  
Lewis, W.J, Lead Mining in Wales, 1967: Forster-Smith, J.R, Non-Ferrous Mines of  
Flintshire, NCMRS, No.7, 1974: Clwyd Rec.Off., Handlist of the Grosvenor  
(Halkyn) Mss, 1988: Ebbs, C., Underground Clwyd, 2000: Burt, et al, Mines of  
Flintshire & Denbigshire, 1992: Ebbs, C., Milwr Tunnel, 1993.
 
I refer directly now to the following Co. docs. gathered over the years  
(please note: Halkin is as spelt on docs. & Mss.):
 
1). Deep Level & Halkin Mining Co.Ltd., 1869 (cert.)
 
2). Halkin Deep Level Mining Co.Ltd, 1872 (cert.)
 
3). Halkin Deep Level Mining Co.Ltd, Resolutions of the Seventh Ord.  
Gen.Meeting, 1877.
 
I go directly to 3).. The first matter is the Dirs. present at the meeting, 
 of which there were ten. Mr John Taylor's name is there, together with 
John  Taylor, Jun.. Now, 'THE' John Taylor Senior died in 1863, so couldn't 
have been  present at the meeting, however, the J.Taylor shown can only be 
'THE' J.Taylor's  son, and the J.Taylor, Jun., could be the 'present' J.Taylor's 
 son. Unfortunately I can only work at this stage with the Family  Tree 
illd. in Mr Burt's 1977 vol. on 'THE' J.Taylor. which shows as far as  'THE' 
J.Taylors children. So, we have two J.Taylor's shown as present,  but, 
interestingly we also have Richard Taylor, who was also involved with  the John 
Taylor & Sons mining consultancy and mining empire. There is  another Taylor 
shown: Mr P.Meadows Taylor (not hyphenated), who this might be I  do not know?
 
I will skip the Resolutions, and move directly to the Report (London,  
Dec.28, 1877) - in brief. It states that ore sold less dues was £137 15s  4d. - 
insignificant, since it was ore gained during other work. There were other  
small rcpts. of £40 or so. A Resolution of the EGM Dec. 21st 1876, machinery 
and  plant had been sold to the value of just over £1000.. The Report 
states that  "...the mining opers. are of necessity suspended until the 
completion of the  contract entered into between the Halkin District Mines Drainage 
Co. and the  Diamond Rock-boring Co, the objects of which we described in our 
Report of the  Meeting last year". (This unfortunately I do not have - 
BRM). The Report goes on  "The Contractors have during the past twelve months 
prosecuted the works with  great rapidity. The Deep Level has at a cost of 
upwards of £4000 been repaired  and secured at all points where the ground 
required support, with strong iron  tubing or brickwork, in place of timber 
formally used for this purpose. Lewis's  Shaft has been enlarged and made 
perpendicular from the surface to the Deep  Level, a depth of nearly 220 yards, at 
a cost of £4500.. This work is just  completed, and the Diamond Rock-boring 
Co. will very shortly commence to drive  the Level by machinery at a high 
rate of speed. The distance from the present  forebreast to the South 
Pant-y-go Shaft at the southern boundary of the Co.'s  sett os 1280 yds: and it is 
believed that this point will be reached in but  little more than two years 
time. The Level will be carried as far as is  practicable upon the course of 
the vein: and we can only hope that, as this long  piece of unexplored 
ground, discoveries of value may be made".
 
Now, this doc. and these words indicate that it was/is the Halkin Deep  
Level that was being worked upon. The Deep Level & Halkin Mining Co.Ltd  was 
capitalised to the value of £100k, with this Co., obviously being superceded  
by the Halkin Deep Level Mining Co.Ltd, but, and this is interesting, the 
only  corporate signature on both docs. is for John Taylor & Sons, as Managers 
-  so therefore they held a significant interest and were influential 
enough in two  Co.'s to sign by their Practice name and not as individual Dirs..  
There were obviously others holding certs. as shareholders. 
 
It seems that whilst the Halkin District Mines Drainage Co. were clearly  
operating (as shown in things read in the vols. mentioned in my 2nd para., it 
 seems that the Taylors' were working ground and the tunnel at the same  
time. Yes, the Taylors' operated mines all over that area on/off for a very  
long while, and were the mineral agents/mgrs. for the Grosvenors - and others 
in  the area as well. I am particularly interested in the photograph shown 
in Cris  Ebbs vol., pps. 38 & 39, since they clearly show 'metal tubing' 
supports  that seem to conform to those mentioned in the 1877 Report; this 
metal tubing -  in the beginning and at the outset - could well have been 
surplus small bore  rising main pipes - pp. 39 also shows brick lining.
 
With the Halkin District Mines Drainage Co., can someone confirm John  
Taylor & Sons involvement with this? There must have been some sort of  serious 
collaboration whatever be the case, since the two Co.'s mentioned above,  
were seemingly in effect, working on the same tunnel with virtually the same  
ideas in mind as the HDMDC's purpose!
 
The maps I have seen so far of the area, seem to be based on the one shown  
in W.J.Lewis's vol., but I have yet to see where Lewis's Shaft is exactly  
placed.
 
I hope someone will find this info. of use and interesting, since I  have 
as yet to read anything that shows any of this apart from relatively brief  
detail of the HDMDC.
 
Regards to All, Bernard
 
p.s. Anybody is welcome to use any of this new info. for any book on  the 
N.Wales mines (in process of writing or reprint), and I only ask for just  
brief thanks for the info.. More detail of the docs. can be supplied, but 
please  contact me off List re this. 

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