With the greatest respect for EPrints and yourself, Les, can it really
claim to offer CRIS functionality *out of the box* at the present time?
I don't see that it is an impossible leap to do so by any means, and
underlying them both are just databases (although the nature of the
interface is clearly important as well in terms of being used to manage
research projects from the point of production, so I'd put it slightly
more cautiously than you do). However, I would expect a good deal more
in terms of management of data about research projects, including the
ability to link complex financial and staffing information with granular
permissions over individual parts of the data (some of which may
obviously be personal and/or sensitive) than I see the bulk of EPrints
repositories managing at present. If EPrints really does handle CERIF
and such granular permissions over the management of data *out of the
box* (a point which I can't stress enough), then I'd welcome that
wholeheartedly, and I'd encourage further developments in that
direction. But we mustn't play with definitions if that is not (yet) so,
which risks confusing the issue at hand.
I'd be grateful if you could clarify what CERIF support EPrints is
either shipped with or can be leveraged to support (hopefully easily -
and how?), and also whether or not sufficiently granular permissions can
be managed over individual parts of records and/or linked data in the
way that I have described above. That would be extremely helpful to have
a clear statement about.
Thanks,
Talat
On 22/06/2010 21:42, Leslie Carr wrote:
> On 22 Jun 2010, at 14:02, David Kane wrote:
>
>
>> If we ourselves are unclear as to the relative merits of CRISs and/or
>> OA repositories, then it is likely that university research
>> departments may be the same.
>>
>> I can see a time when the functionality of the OA repository will be
>> offered by CRIS vendors, managed by the research offices in all
>> universities.
>>
> Well, they are both just databases, aren't they ??? :-)
>
> I think repositories and CRISes are complementary, although some vendors may choose to provide a conjoined product (cough, EPrints, cough). However, it is worth bearing in mind that repositories have come a long way in the decade since they were conceived. Managing, curating, preserving and reusing content via a range of services is quite a considerable job. I believe that some of the monolithic CRIS systems are currently re-architecting themselves to be able to function in a complex environment where different aspects of research information environment are disbursed among different systems. And so I think that repository (managing research content) will likely stay a specialist function that a CRIS (managing research metadata) will seek to interoperate with.
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> Les Carr
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