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Re: [localsustuk] News Items from the USA re electric vehicles and solar pv plus Notes

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Edward Borodzicz <[log in to unmask]>

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Edward Borodzicz <[log in to unmask]>

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Chris,

Don't confuse education with intelligence, education is increasingly correlated to wealth (the last and current government in the UK are determined to make it so with their fees, charges and loans), it is therefore likely that the context of wealth that the student came from was therefore a gas/energy guzzling family, denial is hence no more unreasonable than the smoker who denies the damage the next cigarette will do, or the fat person and the next 1000 calorie burger!  It is well documented in psychology that we do not like to acknowledge high probability risks, instead preferring to look for some exotic low frequency events.

As for intelligence.......... look to those who achieved in spite of not because of!

Edward
   

>>> Chris Keene <[log in to unmask]> 17/06/2010 22:54 >>>
It would be nice to know the average cost of driving a mile on electric 
and on petrol. I believe electric is much cheaper. But how much of the 
petrol cost is tax?  Would electric still be cheaper than petrol if 
taxed at the same rate?

The reason I ask is a campaigning point. All good campaigns have an 
enemy, and I know the oil companies have been buying up the patents for 
electric batteries and blocking their development.  If we could show the 
public how much they would save by having electric cars rather than 
petrol we could get them to really hate the oil companies, and just 
maybe get them to disbelieve the climate denial the oil industry has 
been funding.

Or am I just grasping at straws?  We must do something to conquer the 
deniers - only 19% of college educated Republics in the USA believe in 
anthropogenic global warming (and the more educated you are the less you 
are likely to believe, which suggests to me this is a function of the 
climate denial propaganda educated Republicans are exposed to)

Chris

On 17/06/2010 22:38, ferrand wrote:
>
> 4.7 Million EV Charging Units Expected Worldwide by 2015:
>
> McClatchy/Tribune, June 7, 2010
>
> http://www.energycentral.com/functional/news/news_detail.cfm?did=15795940 
>
> The first affordable mass-produced electric vehicles will hit the
> streets of America later this year. Once the Nissan Leaf begins to make
> its way from dealerships to consumers, the electric vehicle charging
> revolution will begin. A new report by Pike Research reveals that there
> will be an estimated 4.7 million EV charging units in operation
> worldwide by 2015. Of these 4.7 million units, about 1 million will be
> located here in the United States and the remainder elsewhere around the
> world. One primary difference between the national and international
> markets is location. The majority of charging stations in the United
> States will be located at individual residences. The report indicates
> that about two-thirds of EV charging equipment sales will be in the
> residential sector. Americans are expected to prefer the convenience of
> charging their vehicles at home where it will typically cost consumers
> less than $2 to fully charge a vehicle.
>
> Photovoltaics Likely to Reach Milestone of 10 Gigawatts Installed in
> 2010 - But Wind Remains Far Ahead:
>
> GreenTech Media, June 11, 2010
>
> http://www.greentechmedia.com/articles/read/milestone-10-gigawatts-of-pv-in-2010-part-2 
>
> The threshold of 10 gigawatts of photovoltaic solar installed globally
> in a single year is likely to be reached this autumn. Ten years ago, the
> total amount of photovoltaics installed in the year 2000 was 170
> megawatts. Since then, the solar photovoltaic industry has grown at a
> 51 percent annual growth rate, and 170 megawatts is now the size of a
> healthy utility installation or a small solar factory. Photovoltaic
> module pricing has made radical progress, as well, moving from $300 per
> watt in 1956, to $50 per watt in the 1970s, to $10 per watt in the
> 1990s, to $2 per watt today. By comparison, the wind industry installed
> 27 gigawatts in 2008, 38 gigawatts in 2009 and has a total installed
> base of more than 158 gigawatts compared to PV's installed base of about
> 20 gigawatts. 2010 will see more than 200 gigawatts of installed wind
> and the Global Wind Energy Council expects that to double to 400
> gigawatts by the end of 2014.
>
> NOTE In UK Solar PV is at present about 85% of the installed capital
> cost of offshore wind, this may well come down further in the next year
> or so if some current UK PV developments reach the market. BUT wind
> offshore has a utilisation of 25 to 30% while Solar PV is 15-17%.
> SO Solar PV, above [say] all car park bays, will cause much less visual
> and environmental effects than wind energy. Be easier to connect to the
> electricity grid. And require less maintenance ?? Electric car charging
> points could be provided ??
>
> In a way one needs both: Solar in Summer especially to feed Supermarket
> Air Conditioning and Refrigeration: Wind in winter for heating & lighting.
>
> regards
> Ferrand
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