every sympathy to Bobbi Lurie's son's tragic situation, and every wish for
her own wellbeing also. if I prayed, I would do so now. perhaps I shall
regardless.

unfair, though, to spring this kind of emotion on the rest of us. I
personally don't know what to do with this deeply sad information, and this
is not the place to deal with it in the first place.

I truly hope your child is not in pain, Bobbi. I hope and believe he has
experienced wonderful joy in his life, and will again.

KS

On 22 May 2010 02:50, Alison Croggon <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> Christ, Bobbi. Thank you so much for writing in such extremity. Words
> always fail in such circumstances, but I hope your son is ok, I hope
> you are ok, and I am thinking of you both. No, don't cry and get over
> it. Cry as you must, and struggle as you must. I can't imagine how you
> are feeling. No, I can imagine all too well, we are all haunted by the
> nightmare of something awful happening to our children, but to be in
> the middle of that reality is something else.
>
> With much love and best wishes
>
> Alison
>
>
>
> On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 9:39 AM, bobbi lurie <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
> > Alison,
> > I am in the ICU with my son who is in critical condition. He will be here
> > for at least a month (I pray--I pray it will be a month--it is amazing
> how
> > little one learns to ask for--I ask for nothing but that he be let out of
> > this place)
> > And if you want to talk about poetry--there is more poetry in the
> kindness
> > of the people who care for him than in every poetry book on the face of
> this
> > earth.
> > I wish poets would stop advertising themselves and their work.
> > The aggression is too much--too much.
> > Don't poets realize that puts people off? That we read what we need to
> read
> > when we need to read it? Or am I the only one who sees things this way?
> > (sorry to be so off topic as I'm sure I am)
> > I have my computer with me. I am here 24/ 7 --I am writing with one
> > hand--the other is holding the hand of my son----and this computer is my
> > only link away from this horrific experience--not that I can leave it for
> a
> > fraction of a second--I can't--but I know what you are saying in re: to
> > being a woman. I don't know what the discussion is about on this list but
> I
> > stand by you, Alison. I do regardless of what is going on.
> > Me and another woman are crying in the hallways together because both of
> our
> > sons are in the most abominable condition--both of them damaged from the
> > same drug--her son is blind--mine isn't so far so I am blessed--both of
> them
> > are suffering horrifying damage done to their young selves due to a drug
> > which should not have been put on the market and I refuse to simply cry
> > about it. You see, they just want us women to cry and get over it, don't
> > they? (it's not going to happen, Alison)
> > So whatever the discussion is about, I'm with you Alison and not just
> > because I am a woman but because I know how you feel as a woman. I don't
> > follow this list that often. I am on too many lists and am not thinking
> of
> > poetry much now--only the poetry of the healers who I see as
> beautiful--as
> > beauty--as beyond anything poetry can do--enough romantization of
> > poetry--that is a luxury--sometimes I just can't believe it--how
> fortunate.
> > But everything means something and you may not remember but you stood by
> me
> > during an important time some years back. So whatever it is, count me in
> as
> > being here. If I don't respond it's because I can't. But when I can I
> will.
> > You are not alone.
> > Bobbi
> >
> > On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 5:04 PM, Alison Croggon <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
> >
> >> "Somebody who thinks themself 'for the record' an incredibly important
> >> critic" a "silly apron man-hating petty-minded drip"?
> >>
> >> As the sole woman in this discussion, I think that was directed
> >> towards me. As an obvious "man-hater". I don't really get the silly
> >> apron stuff, or "cook my sock", but I guess that means I should get
> >> back to the kitchen? Oh Desmond, Desmond, Desmond, you do do the
> >> cliches.
> >>
> >> I only mention it - I agree, it's petty and best ignored - because I
> >> AM the sole woman in this discussion. The only other woman who has
> >> recently posted to this list is Judy, aside from an announcement post
> >> from Janet. The fewness of women participating in discussion here is
> >> striking. It hasn't always been so.
> >>
> >> I don't especially care about crap flying at me; as a fairly outspoken
> >> woman I'm used to it. But I presume there are other women on this
> >> list. This kind of rhetoric might help account for why they're not
> >> participating.
> >>
> >> It would be interesting to hear.
> >>
> >> A
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 3:39 AM, Douglas Barbour
> >> <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >> > Qui? Moi?
> >> > sez us all...
> >> >
> >> > On 20-May-10, at 11:35 AM, Desmond Swords wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Er, yeah.
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks very much for being such a slapper of droll wit.
> >> >>
> >> >> The Aurthor of your hilarious comment, comes across as somebody who
> >> thinks
> >> >> themself 'for the record' an incredibly important critic waffler
> effin
> >> like
> >> >> a silly apron man-hating petty minded drip.
> >> >>
> >> >> Cook my sock.
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > Douglas Barbour
> >> > [log in to unmask]
> >> >
> >> > http://www.ualberta.ca/~dbarbour/<http://www.ualberta.ca/%7Edbarbour/>
> >> >
> >> > Latest books:
> >> > Continuations (with Sheila E Murphy)
> >> > http://www.uap.ualberta.ca/UAP.asp?LID=41&bookID=664
> >> > Wednesdays'
> >> >
> >>
> http://abovegroundpress.blogspot.com/2008/03/new-from-aboveground-press_10.html
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > the poem, like the city, destroyed and built again
> >> >
> >> > and, here and there, remains of history
> >> >
> >> >                Chus Pato (trans. Erin Mouré)
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
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> >> Blog: http://theatrenotes.blogspot.com
> >> Home page: http://www.alisoncroggon.com
> >>
> >
>
>
>
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