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Re: New issue of Versification

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David Bircumshaw <[log in to unmask]>

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Poetryetc: poetry and poetics

Date:

Sat, 8 May 2010 22:51:49 +0100

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http://io9.com/5026043/dna-tests-reveal-who-was-having-sex-with-neanderthals-40000-years-ago

Just depends who's telling the stories to the vicar

On 8 May 2010 21:00, Roger Collett <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> Cop this then Dave:
>
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/8660940.stm
>
> Roger Collett
> Arrowhead Press
>
> http://www.arrowheadpress.co.uk/
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> "Imagination is the one weapon in the war against reality."
> Jules de Gaultier
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Bircumshaw" <
> [log in to unmask]>
>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2010 8:56 PM
> Subject: Re: New issue of Versification
>
>
>
> On 8 May 2010 20:46, Judy Prince <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>
>> You're such a Neanderthal, Dave
>>>
>>
>>
>> 'Fraid, not, according to our Scientific Brethren, we don't have any
>> Neanderthal DNA, quite possibly because our ancestors wiped out the poor
>> craggy-browed lumps
>>
>>
>> .
>>>
>>>  .
>>>
>>> I began using the lumpy term "USAmerican" years ago when someone on petc
>>> drew it to our attention that "American" would apply to Canadians and
>>> those
>>> living anywhere central and south of the USA on this continent.  The
>>> person
>>> recommended, therefore, using "USAmerican", so I have done.
>>>
>>> Judy only slightly suspicious of her own Neanderthal dna
>>>
>>> On 8 May 2010 15:25, David Bircumshaw <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>
>>> > Well, strip away the Emperor's clothes, whether USA-American or UK-er
>>> (when
>>> > the hell did this awful lingo break in?) and you have:
>>> >
>>> > PRIMATE STATUS CODES
>>> >
>>> > yes, folks, it's all the way back to the Stone Age for a free peer into
>>> the
>>> > tribal stream, because underneath it all Neolithic Ape-Persons is Wot
>>> We
>>> > Are, still hard-wired for clan-groups of about 120-180 people, and
>>> capable
>>> > of using anything, be it a Stealth bomber or a Language and all its
>>> > Trappings of Power with all the Gentle Persuasive Pow'rs of a hand-axe.
>>> So
>>> > doing the Large Society Thing don't come easy to us, especially when
>>> that
>>> > most aphrodisiac asset is concerned: p-p-power.
>>> >
>>> > On 8 May 2010 18:13, Judy Prince <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > > Yeah, Dave, I'm giving the USA spin on "president" bcuz I've lived
>>> with
>>> > the
>>> > > system my entire life.  To imagine, from my perspective, as I said, a
>>> > > monarch being called a president runs against all that USAers had and
>>> > have
>>> > > thought the role to be.  We're the ones, you may recall, who tried
>>> rather
>>> > > desperately to figure out what to call our first president, having
>>> > > reasonably ditched "the other" George.  We finally settled on "Mr.
>>> > > President" which, natch, is now outmodedly sexist.
>>> > >
>>> > > As I said elsewhere, it amazes me that (with my stereotypical view of
>>> > Brits
>>> > > as polite, courteous creatures who are oddly loose cannons on the
>>> deck
>>> of
>>> > > already nationwide individualism) I've not yet met or read a Brit who
>>> has
>>> > > anything positive to say about the royals.
>>> > >
>>> > > For my own part, I'm heartened that Prince Charles strikes many
>>> USAers
>>> as
>>> > a
>>> > > guy with a reasonable aesthetic sensibility and an enlightened,
>>> practical
>>> > > view of agricultural methods.  But the Brits I've talked to have
>>> nothing
>>> > > positive to say about him.  Oh, hang on----his older son is thought
>>> to
>>> be
>>> > > himself an exception to the rule that royals are dumb as &%$ (not my
>>> > > words!)!
>>> > >
>>> > > Judy
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > On 8 May 2010 12:51, David Bircumshaw <[log in to unmask]>
>>> wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > > > >UK's "president", as you'd call QE2,  (to a USAmerican, a very
>>> very
>>> > > > strange
>>> > > > application of the word to a MONARCH, for heaven's sake!) is
>>> regarded
>>> > by
>>> > > us
>>> > > > as a combo of our vestigial English past, our love for glitz,
>>> glamour,
>>> > > > wealth and "the Old World", and our prurient interest in the
>>> personal
>>> > > > goings-on of Brit upper-crusts.  Other than that, we're shocked
>>> that
>>> a
>>> > > > royal would have any real influence on politics.<
>>> > > >
>>> > > > Well Judy the monarch's the Head of State here as a President is in
>>> > other
>>> > > > countries, such as the one across the channel as well as the one
>>> across
>>> > > the
>>> > > > ocean. i wouldn't gey swayed too much by the glitz though: the
>>> present
>>> > > > Crown
>>> > > > Jewels are really rather top-heavy over-furnished
>>> Victorian-Edwardian
>>> > > > creations, the one surviving mediaeval crown (it's in Germany
>>> somewhere
>>> > I
>>> > > > think) is altogether a subtler thing, a tasteful bunch of
>>> > mass-murderers
>>> > > > the
>>> > > > old royalty, not like the present horsey dullards. Yes, in the old
>>> days
>>> > > > domestic assassins had style.
>>> > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >  --
>>> > David Bircumshaw
>>> > "Every old house was scaffolding once/And workmen whistling"
>>> > Website and A Chide's Alphabet
>>> > http://www.staplednapkin.org.uk
>>> > The Animal Subsides http://www.arrowheadpress.co.uk/books/animal.html
>>> > Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/david.bircumshaw
>>> > twitter: http://twitter.com/bucketshave
>>> > blog: http://groggydays.blogspot.com/
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>  "If we'd stopped at the number ten, everything would be great."
>>>
>>> Jeff Hecker, Norfolk VA
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> David Bircumshaw
>> "Every old house was scaffolding once/And workmen whistling"
>> Website and A Chide's Alphabet
>> http://www.staplednapkin.org.uk
>> The Animal Subsides http://www.arrowheadpress.co.uk/books/animal.html
>> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/david.bircumshaw
>> twitter: http://twitter.com/bucketshave
>> blog: http://groggydays.blogspot.com/
>>
>>


-- 
David Bircumshaw
"Every old house was scaffolding once/And workmen whistling"
Website and A Chide's Alphabet
http://www.staplednapkin.org.uk
The Animal Subsides http://www.arrowheadpress.co.uk/books/animal.html
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/david.bircumshaw
twitter: http://twitter.com/bucketshave
blog: http://groggydays.blogspot.com/

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