Hi Sylvia—
My apologies. I understood the topic but was presenting an
extrapolated analogy.
Again my sincere apologies. In future I will stay within the confines
of the thoughts presented.
venantius j pinto
On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 2:03 PM, sylvia cornet <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Hi Venantius Hi All
> thanks for your very interesting message.
> getting to know other cultures is a marvellous gift of life our societies
> allows.
> Frogive me my english is not so well written : as a french :)
> The topic is whether
> language should be elegant and possibly with no mistakes
> I just suggested to compare :
> an arcadian landscape ( used as a symbol of beautiful language )
> and
> a doggy street ( used as a symbol of some vernacular language people use)
> That was the purpose of up education...
> My purpose was not to judge people nor art...
> Just try people to " view " that sometime
> words also represent objects...
> By the way i really appreciate Bridget Riley
> and also Sol le Witt as a mathematician in arts :)
> thanks and best
> Sylvia CORNET
>> Date: Wed, 5 May 2010 13:33:52 -0400
>> From: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: drawing research
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>
>> Hi Lynne, Hi Sylvia, Hi All—
>> A few thoughts for what they are worth: Individuals have very
>> different concerns, and this is dictated to some degree with ones
>> environmental constructs — relationship with people and place; which
>> then opens up to include the immediate outside (out of ones group,
>> philosophies, day-to-day realities, including those perceived slights
>> and true joys); later widening the ambit in seeing those even further
>> and further away in terms of various manners of distancing (near and
>> far) whether they be attitudes, levels of politeness, élan, elegance.
>> From the Self to the World.
>>
>> Now a bit about me: I am of Indian origin, born in Mumbai of Goan
>> parents. As with most people we too different in appearances as also
>> the way Indians see one another across a range of categories. So
>> seeing is complex in various individuals, groups, clumps of villages,
>> etc. The way a true cosmopolitan Indian see the world outside India,
>> see the outside world in India is layered too. I used to tell my
>> students at F.I.T. many years ago — see me not only as an Indian
>> standing in front of you. Listen to what I say, the analogies I make,
>> the thoughts I put out, the idioms I use.
>>
>> Then there is the the other Seeing — how the non-Indian sees the
>> Indian they encounter whether in India or outside India, The
>> distinctions needless to say would be many; dovetail that with
>> individual biases, comprehensions, cultural imprints and we begin to
>> get a glimpse of our complex faculties. My Indian passport often makes
>> travel a bit difficult for me. That may just be the nature of
>> bureaucracy or individual attitudes on part of the Immigration
>> officers I encounter. But I am not going to blame individual counties.
>>
>> I know where I stand in Drawing, but do not make a hoo-hah of it. If I
>> am invited I show up; keep doing my thing. But I have learnt something
>> which to me is helpful, and a bit amusing — I am hardly given the time
>> of day by those same people who are very reasonable in their thoughts,
>> ideas, lived aesthetics. In time they too will/ may change, have more
>> fulfilling experiences. Drawing can do that to you — give you
>> gravitas. From time to time someone opens or point to a path; Damian
>> Fennell and Steve Garner being two via DRN. Others** did not and they
>> are individuals to reckon with (Note: I am not saying its my right).
>> Although one is not being boorish or banal, people make decisions on
>> their perceptions and presumably if interests coincide. Even things
>> like whether you are cool/ appear Cool, plays a part. That is one
>> strand in modernity, and we have to accept that, but keep going. As I
>> ready my self for some large works I keep this in mind.
>>
>> Besides, and its not a joke — it would take the work of the **latter
>> to another level for sure. We are not all equal in sheer skill, but
>> will gain or achieve very different things and on/ at different
>> levels. And this is not arrogance. Its obvious, and is common sense.
>>
>> In appreciation,
>> venantius j pinto
>>
>> On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 12:38 PM, lynne langton
>> <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>> bonjour i have read what you have written and thought about it i do
>>> not
>>> understand i feel the world is full of interesting things places
>>> art for example the German Expressionist show in Leicester Briget
>>> RILEY in Birmingham and so on the rudeness of people when i began
>>> on
>>> this site was primarily from England as i emailing everyone
>>> instead
>>> of the individual people in Europe were ploite and emailed me so i
>>> guess i
>>> am not into streets of dog poo but Cezanne and try and i am
>>> polite and it is okay to be pedantic if anyone so chooses with
>>> regard
>>>
>>> Lynne Langton
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: sylvia cornet <[log in to unmask]>
>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>> Sent: Tuesday, 4 May, 2010 18:34:59
>>> Subject: drawing research
>>>
>>> Is this pedantic or old
>>>
>>> please have a look
>>>
>>> You walk in a pleasant street and then a dog has applied his metabolism
>>> anywhere.
>>>
>>> Sentences are the same. Beautiful words and elegance of thinking
>>> are as flowers in well kept meadows.
>>>
>>> But of course everyone knows " teens " enjoy bad talkings.
>>> When this teens are concerned this is their level
>>>
>>> But how feel right when a society has everybody talking
>>> as teens...
>>>
>>> Once again i do not try to judge
>>> but to apply a thinking of the Art History.
>>>
>>> Magritte drawed a pipe and wrote this is not a pipe.
>>> Of course this was a representation of a pipe.
>>>
>>> Thus if you " see " the words in your mind...
>>> Don't you see the objet...
>>>
>>> Just compare viewing
>>> arcadian landscapes
>>> to
>>> doggy streets...
>>>
>>>
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