Dear all,
I've been asked by Jonathan Waller at HESA to forward the message below in relation to today's discussions. This is a joint statement from HESA and Thomson Reuters. If there are any further queries could they be posted to the list and I am happy to raise with HESA.
Best wishes Vikki
Sent from my Windows Mobile® phone.
"Thomson Reuters has negotiated with the UK Higher Education Statistics
Agency (HESA) to acquire a data-set for UK Higher Education Institutions
for use within the Global Institutional Profiles Project for this year -
2010.
It is our intention to use the HESA data to populate the relevant fields
within the Data Collection tool. Once this is done, individual
institutions will be required to confirm the data via the Data
Collection tool. This mechanism is intended to minimise the burden on HE
institutions in collecting the data.
It will take some time for HESA and Thomson Reuters to collate this data
and make it available within the data collection tool, at this time we
do not have a fixed date for the upload of the data but it is likely to
be mid June. If you have the data to hand and are happy to submit your
data now, please proceed to do so. However, if you prefer to wait for us
to pre-populate the Data Collection tool with HESA data please let us
know.
Even if you do prefer to wait for the HESA data, please continue to
input information in the "Institutional and Contact Information" section
as this data will not be supplied by HESA and will be valuable
information to enable customers and students to find out more about your
institution and the best way to contact you.
HESA will be previewing the data they prepare for Thomson-Reuters to
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However, I understand that Thomson-Reuters are requesting some
additional data from HEIs that HESA are unable to provide, as they are
not collected. Financial data by subject as referred to by Wesley
Rennison may be an example of this.
Jonathan
Jonathan Waller
Director of Information & Analysis
Higher Education Statistics Agency (HESA)
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-----Original Message-----
From: Goddard, Vikki [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Monday 17 May 2010 17:14
To: Denise Jones
Cc: Jonathan Waller
Subject: FW: World Rankings
Dear Denise/Jonathan,
As you'll see from the emails below there remains some confusion about
what we are, or are not, being asked to do. Would it be possible to
have a definitive statement please that can reassure the community?
Many thanks Vikki
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Vikki Goddard
Director of Planning
The University of Liverpool
Email: [log in to unmask]
Tel: +44 151 795 2129
-----Original Message-----
From: Goddard, Vikki
Sent: 17 May 2010 17:12
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: RE: World Rankings
If this is the case then I think we need a definitive statement from
both HESA and TR. I asked HESA explicitly whether we still needed to
provide the data that had been requested and was told that we did not.
I will check this with them again.
Best wishes Vikki
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Vikki Goddard
Director of Planning
The University of Liverpool
Email: [log in to unmask]
Tel: +44 151 795 2129
-----Original Message-----
From: Academic, financial or space planning in UK universities
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Wesley Rennison
Sent: 17 May 2010 16:57
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: World Rankings
Apologies for raining on anyone's parade. The HESA finance data being
provided to THES/ThomsonReuters by HESA is not at subject level as they
have requested from each institution. I guess that the HESA data might
just be used for checking the totals. I've emailed ThomsonReuters to
ask about this but not had a reply yet.
One further thing, I previously asked about the large portion of income
that is not directly attributed to subject areas and was advised to
pro-rate this out for the subejct areas, so that the total for the
subjects matches the total for the university. Does this match what
others are doing/have done?
Wesley
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