Because I require variety and complete cycles of poems, I have found _English Sixteenth-Century Verse: An Anthology_, ed Richard Sylvester, hard to beat. Anchor produced it, and Norton keeps it running. My students like it, too. The notes are still good. There is a Seventeenth-Century Verse volume, too, but I have not used it.
Heather
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From: Robert Kilgore <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Saturday, April 10, 2010 1:20 am
Subject: Re: Teaching with the Penguin Book of Renaissance Verse
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> (Hi! I'm a long time listener, first time caller, everyone.)
>
> I've used the Penguin for a senior-level seminar in Ren Poetry. I
> love
> the book, and I do probably because it's a diverse text with a
> complicated apparatus. The pages are numbered, and the poems are
> numbered. The thematic arrangement of the book causes much flipping
> of
> pages but also leads to serendipity (finding Birch's "come over the
> born
> bessy," poem #12, for example). I would use it again for the same
> kind
> of class. The book worked best when I took advantage of the ready-
> made
> juxtapositions instead of trying to fight the arrangement.
>
> My students learned to deal with the old spelling. There was some
> complaining at first, but after an experience with EEBO's scan of
> Tottel's Miscellany, the students were grateful to see anything
> printed
> in the last 50 years. Their louder complaint was that the book used
> endnotes, not footnotes. Hope this helps, Michael. And that's a
> brilliant observation about stdnt txting, Andrew.
>
> On this matter of teaching: I'll be teaching The Renaissance Period
> Course this fall. In the past, I tried to "cover" the period with
> lots
> of writers and texts, but for the fall, I'm considering focusing on
> three--possibly four--authors. Is this wise? Breadth or depth? Is
> the
> Penguin Book of Renaissance Verse the just the perfect thing for
> the
> period course, or should I go for the editions of specific authors?
> Or
> both?
>
> Best,
>
> Rob Kilgore
> University of South Carolina Beaufort
>
>
> On 4/9/2010 12:15 PM, Andrew Strycharski wrote:
> > I can't answer the general query, only having studented with this
> text,> but on the point of olde spelling:
> >
> > In my experience, it's not that much of an issue. Students tend to
> > acclimate quickly, though I've always offered some basic pointers,
> > depending on the edition. I've even had freshman read shorter
> texts that
> > maintained the i & u typography, and they got it. Most of them
> text, and
> > if they can figure out texting orthography, old-spelling is a
> walk in
> > the park.
> >
> > This semester I'm using Roberts' edition of Mary Wroth's poetry with
> > upper division students. The punctuation is causing a few
> headaches, as
> > is Wroth's often terse syntax (but that still causes me
> headaches!), but
> > the spelling, not so much. (On punctuation: as a class, we're
> > *beginning* to understand some of the logic behind what appears
> quirky> to modern readers.) And a substantive portion of my
> students at FIU are
> > generation 1.5 English learners, with a few genuine ESL students
> mixed in.
> >
> > -Andy Strycharski
> >
> >
> > Michael Ullyot wrote:
> >> Since we're talking about teaching (excerpts & topics), does anyone
> >> have experience teaching with Norbrook and Woudhuysen's Penguin
> Book>> of Renaissance Verse? Patrick Cheney predicts in the MLA's
> *Approaches>> to Teaching Shorter Elizabethan Poetry* (2000) that
> it "will likely
> >> become the preferred text [anthology]," as it has mine.
> >> I wonder if others can offer advice about selections, about
> mitigating>> the old-spelling effect (assign preliminary readings
> on early modern
> >> language?), about Norbrook's excellent introduction, &c.
> >>
> >> yours
> >> Michael Ullyot
> >>
> >>
> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >> Michael Ullyot, Assistant Professor
> >> Department of English, University of Calgary
> >> 2500 University Drive NW, Calgary, Alberta, Canada, T2N 1N4
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> >>
> >> < http://www.ucalgary.ca/~ullyot/ >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
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