What nonsense.
The point is that people won't engage with us because we start to use nonsense words like unconference and end up disappearing up our own behind. Use English and people might understand what you are talking about. It's about being able to understand what is being said and judging by the responses unconference misses the mark.
Chris
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From: The UK Records Management mailing list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Steve Bailey - JISC infoNet
Sent: 08 April 2010 14:02
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Subject: Re: Unconference: Storing Information in the Cloud - 21 May in Manchester
Peter.
The only reason for not including the entire quote was one of brevity and relevance to the topic in hand, but I think your response to the section I left out really gets to the heart of the issue. Frankly I couldn't care less whether you and other records managers like the term unconference or not, or just see it as bullsh*t or not as you imply as this is purely a matter of personal opinion to which we are all entitled. The trouble is that like so many of these debates it misses the point entirely.
Its all very well for us to scoff, dismiss or ignore developments such as these, but in doing so we are writing our own professional suicide note. For whether we 'get it' or not will not make a hoot of difference to the rest of the world who will continue to innovate, to change and to transform without us. Records management is a profession which relies on an understanding not only of the organisations who create records, but the behaviours, attitudes and actions of the hundreds and thousands of users who work in them and the technology that they utilise when they do. By cutting ourselves off from the developments, trends and even the fads and temporary crazes which influence how people interact and how transactions occur we also cut ourselves off from the future supply of records that it is our apparent duty to manage.
Its easy to dismiss things like this as just being the work of 'geeks' and therefore somehow unimportant. People had exactly the same view of the geeks and nerds who were 'wasting their time' with this new thing called the 'internet' in the early 1990s, what a load of losers they were. I wonder what they are doing now: oh yes running Google, and Amazon and eBay and determining how society, culture, business and government functions. Just little things like that.
We don't have the privilege of being choosey and selective about which trends and technologies we choose to 'honour' with our interest and those we don't. I don't suppose the police much like it when a new illegal drug or type of weapon is introduced to the streets, but its still their responsibility to manage its consequences regardless. Turning your back on it doesn't prevent it occurring, it just makes the process of managing its implications that much harder. Even after 15 years as a records manager (which I know is just a blip compared with your own experience) I still find it astonishing how a profession whose actions are so intrinsically tied up with processes of change can at the same time be some astonishingly conservative in its outlook.
Now of course the results of this 'suicide note' will not be felt for some time, we are not talking sudden decapitation here; more 'death from a thousand cuts' as slowly but surely our sphere of influence gets a little smaller and our perceived relevance a little less obvious. Sure there will still be boxes to put on shelves, take down, put back and maybe even destroy occasionally but if that remains the limit of our influence in 10 years time then I think it will be time to call the coroner anyway.
Hope you're enjoying your retirement.
Regards
Steve
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Sent: 08 April 2010 12:53
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Subject: Re: Unconference: Storing Information in the Cloud - 21 May in Manchester
I notice Steve didn't provide the final line from the Wikipedia entry: 'The
term is primarily used in the geek community, though as of 2009 it has also
started to appear in the travel industry[2]'.
Instead we get another 'king's new clothes' smack for being so ill informed
and backward.
The same source describes a conference as: 'a meeting of people that
"confer" about a topic'. If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and
quacks like a duck, it's a duck.
Alternatively: If it looks like BS and smells like BS, it's BS!
This does not, of course, reduce the value of the event itself which will
contribute to the development of an important piece of work.
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Sent: 08 April 2010 11:56
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Subject: Re: Unconference: Storing Information in the Cloud - 21 May in
Manchester
I rest my case...
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Sent: 08 April 2010 11:49
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Subject: Re: Unconference: Storing Information in the Cloud - 21 May in
Manchester
Or, as we call it a Conference.
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Manchester
HI Eldin
For information:
"An unconference is a facilitated, participant-driven conference centered on
a theme or purpose. The term "unconference" has been applied, or
self-applied, to a wide range of gatherings that try to avoid one or more
aspects of a conventional conference, such as high fees and sponsored
presentations."
From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unconference
It's a type of event which is becoming increasingly common (and successful)
in many part of IT and new media and I think its great (and long overdue) to
see a similar event being planned for RM. Another example of how the world
of which we are supposed to be a part continues to leave us trailing far far
behind...
Hope this helps
Cheers
Steve
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Sent: 08 April 2010 11:11
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Subject: Re: Unconference: Storing Information in the Cloud - 21 May in
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Unconference?? I assume this is a conference / workshop / meeting?
I know what a conference is. I know what a workshop is. I know what a
participant-led conference is. I know what an economically-priced conference
is. But "unconference"??
I think I need an undrink....that's a drink that tries to avoid one or more
aspects of a conventional drink ;-)
Regards,
Eldin.
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Sent: 08 April 2010 09:25
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Subject: Unconference: Storing Information in the Cloud - 21 May in
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****Apologies for cross posting***
'Storing information in the Cloud' Unconference
21 May 2010 in Manchester
Full schedule available here:
http://www.dis.aber.ac.uk/en/news/cloudworkshop.asp
Venue: Centre for Excellence in Enquiry-Based Learning (CEEBL) at
Manchester University, C24 Sackville Street Building, Sackville Street,
Manchester, M60 1QD (http://www.campus.manchester.ac.uk/ceebl/)
Format: short keynote (15-20 minutes) followed by workshop based on cloud
scenarios
Cost: £65 Includes Lunch and coffee
To register download the registration form here:
http://www.dis.aber.ac.uk/en/news/cloudworkshop.asp
Registration ends 12 May 2010
This workshop-based unconference is part of a project currently run by the
Department of Information Studies at Aberystwyth University and funded by
the Society of Archivists looking into security, operational and
governance issues of storing information in the cloud.
Cloud computing, that is the provision of IT services via the internet, is
a trending topic within the information communities. In recent years many
organisations already have or are actively planning to outsource some of
their IT services such as email, information storage, payroll etc. to
cloud computing providers such as Google and Amazon for cost and
efficiency reasons. Cloud computing can have financial and operational
advantages such as reduced deployment cost, increased storage capabilities
and scalability. However, cloud computing raises security and compliance
issues that need to be addressed when outsourcing information storage to
third parties. Our aim at this one-day workshop-based unconference is to
generate debate and to highlight some of the security and governance
issues surrounding the storage of information in a virtual environment.
The unconference is aimed at information professionals such as information
managers, records managers, archivists and librarians as well as at IT
professionals who are faced with organisational initiatives to move
information into the cloud and who are looking for a starting point on how
to tackle information management and security requirements in the cloud
environment. The unconference is divided into three streams (governance,
security and information management in the cloud) chaired and introduced
by three industry experts in their field. A short presentation from the
chair of each session is followed by an open workshop working through the
issues relating to the storage of information in the cloud from a
governance, security and IM angle as well as some possible approaches to
managing the cloud-based information environment. The highly
participative, open unconference format provides participants with the
opportunity to exchange opinions, ideas and approaches with fellow
information professionals in a friendly, yet informed environment.
Conference schedule:
9.30 a.m. Registration and coffee
10-10.30 a.m. Welcome and topic brainstorm
10.30 a.m. - 12 p.m. Session 1: Information Governance - Chair: Dai
Davies, Brooke North LLP
12-1 p.m. lunch and networking
1-2.30 p.m. Session 2: Information Security - Chair: Paul Miller, Cloud of
Data
2.30-2.45 p.m. Tea break
2.45-4 p.m. Session 3: Cloud computing challenges and the future of RIM -
Chair: Steve Bailey, JISC
4-5 p.m. Cloud Service Provider Q&A Session (tbc)
--
Nicole Schulz
Teaching Fellow
Department of Information Studies
Aberystwyth University
Llanbadarn Fawr
Aberystwyth SY23 3AS
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