It's easy to take snooty potshots at the Daily Mail and to make sweeping
statements instead of offering insight or analysis. Are you also going
to accuse people who buy the Daily Mail of being stupid?
Personally, I have a lot of respect for the Mike Hanlon and Fiona MacRae
who write about science for the Daily Mail, and the environment
correspondent, David Derbyshire - they write for a wider a much bigger
readership than their counterparts on the so-called quality newspapers.
I notice that the article on ash was written by Sean Poulter, whose
byline usually proclaims that he is consumer affairs correspondent. He's
usually called upon to provide the anti-scientific view on issues such
as GM and mobile phones.
May I suggest that it would be better and more effective to champion the
writing of the specialists like Fiona, Mike and David rather than
condemining all of the journalists who work on the newspaper?
Bob Ward
Policy and Communications Director
Grantham Research Institute on Climate Change and the Environment
London School of Economics and Political Science
Houghton Street
London WC2A 2AE
http://www.lse.ac.uk/grantham
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[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Michael Kenward
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What is the point of this type of journalistic activity?
What is the point of the Daily Mail?
To scare everyone witless and keep women in their place, at the kitchen
sink.
MK
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Sent: 27 April 2010 14:39
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This type of problem with journalism is not confined to the science
sector. I was in finance. We had people ring with a pre-prepared story,
which they wanted us to rubber stamp. If we disagreed they could become
quite annoyed, and sometimes rang off with the comment that they would
get someone else - presumably better informed - to confirm their story.
What is the point of this type of journalistic activity? - Simon Raggett
Andrew Russell wrote:
> The Telegraph article looks pretty good compared to this one in the
Mail:
>
>
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1268794/Remember-ash-cloud-It-di
dnt-
exist-says-new-evidence.html
>
> The satellite image that they use as "proof" that there was no ash
> cloud
is from the water vapour channel of Meteosat which only sees a
relatively narrow vertical range and wouldn't pick up the ash anyway.
Meteosat does have a channel that picks up ash, this channel showed the
cloud.
>
> What really dissapointed me about this story was that someone from the
Mail phoned me and some of my workmates to ask about the ash cloud,
trying to get us to say that the decision to ground the planes was
"stupid".
Instead, we spent quite a while explaining some plots from our lidars
(linked to below) that clearly show the ash layer on the relevant dates.
They ignored this.
>
> http://data.cas.manchester.ac.uk/lidar/
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