My London friends talk about playing in the rubble, and loving it! The mystery of the powers of destruction lurking around twisted metal, broken bricks, etc. Ghosts.
Stephen
http://stephenvincent.net/blog/
--- On Fri, 4/2/10, David Bircumshaw <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
From: David Bircumshaw <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: was: oxford prof of poetry? now state of the world
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Date: Friday, April 2, 2010, 2:18 PM
Although I gre up in a hideous Victorian inner cityscape thanks to the
Luftwaffe there were plenty of unexpected open spaces :)
On 2 April 2010 18:13, Douglas Barbour <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> I like that term, 'Third Landscape,' Stephen. It names what we had way back
> when, certainly I & my friends did when I was between 3 & oh 10 or more....
>
> I remember them well..., which is to say they are good memories, make me
> feel well...
>
> But then, as Mark's post of those two quotes suggests, we were perhaps
> privileged in manhy other ways, as well....
>
>
> Doug
> On 1-Apr-10, at 11:47 AM, Stephen Vincent wrote:
>
> Additionally, particularly in terms of suburbs, gates communities, even
>> urban condo complexes, these places are not people or kid friendly. Their
>> landscapes are so over-managed - no empty lots with free growing grasses
>> and/or weeds and dirt mounds, etc. No real creeks. It's hard for either old
>> or young to feel imaginatively implicated - spontaneously or otherwise - in
>> these places. Unfortunately much of the 'civilized world' resists these
>> Third Landscapes, as these kinds of spaces are called. Instead we are given
>> neighborhoods, particularly in the suburbs, that are totally under control,
>> or, alternatively, untouchable, highly restricted wildnerness areas which
>> are not to be creatively 'tampered' or played with - such as the once empty
>> lot in the neighborhood.
>>
>
> Douglas Barbour
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> The secret
>
> which got lost neither hides
> nor reveals itself, it shows forth
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> tokens.
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> Charles Olson
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