Dear All
I was saddened to read the start of this email list. I think that, on a
philosophical level, we can probably all wonder what psychology and it
is always worth re-visiting Foucault! There is no doubt that as a newly
developing (undergraduate) psychologist I revelled in the thought that
this would mean I could spend my time working to find something that
does not really exist.
However, I am essentially a pragmatist and if psychologies are not there
then neither is community (communism), society (or socialism). I
therefore think that what matters is how important I think relationships
(including society and community) between people are (regardless of
power). I hold the view that they are, that human relationships are
useful (and important) and interestingly that the more I participate in
the community in which I live the better I feel about life. That is
enough for me. Keep up the good work on the Tybald's estate. Having
worked with an asylum seeker who had to carry her disabled child up many
flights of stairs to reach their flat I think that a lift is no mean
feat.
Please do share more of you work with us.
Helen Combes
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Sent: 26 April 2010 19:57
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Subject: Re: Activity on the Tybalds Estate
Thanks Annie. That's really nicely put.
As for the election, I'm afraid I find it all rather depressing!
Penny
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Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 4:50 PM
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Dear all,
These definitions were collected together from a variety of people in
preparation for the Community Psychology Conference in Exeter, some
years
ago now.
The first definition is from Greenroots in Devon - Rachel and Steph are
community members - not professional psychologists.
The sorts of effective collective activity which Erica describes in her
email seem to fit well within Rachel and Steph's definition of what
community psychology means to them - and to me too.
It is hard to sustain a critical edge in our nasty capitalist world .
Despite my own aspirations towards working with others to challenge
oppression and abuses of power, much of my everyday work could be
readily
and rightly critiqued by others as complicit with divisive forces,
Perhaps
the best, in critical terms, is the enemy of the good?
We live in a world structured by inequality, - and we do lack socialist
critiques... but that's a collective lack, for which surely we would not
want to blame ( especially here!) individuals ( workers and other
citizens )
who suffer from that lack.
here in Britain right now ; what do our election c"choices" mean for
community psychology values and practice?
Annie Mitchell
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Well, they're not MY definitions. I guess some of the people who put
forward
those definitions, including people on this list (e.g. David Fryer)
might
respond to your points.
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Subject: Re: [COMMUNITYPSYCHUK] Activity on the Tybalds Estate
exactly. What make it psychology? the level of analysis? they
professional
background of the practitioner? I've always thought this list more about
philosophy and politics rather than psychology. Tim
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Date: Monday, 26 April, 2010, 12:48
As ever, "Community psychology" is whatever a psy professional says it
is.
Most of Penny's definitions could begin "Local politics is.."
"Neighbourhood
action is.." with no need for psychology in there at all
Craig
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Subject: Re: [COMMUNITYPSYCHUK] Activity on the Tybalds Estate
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Date: Monday, 26 April, 2010, 9:58
Gosh, it often suprises me how heated things get on here sometimes.
I have found Foucault very difficult to read, myself...and makes me
wonder a
bit whether there's possibility of oppression of people who can't grasp
heavy intellectual texts and therefore maybe excluded from some of these
discussions (speaking for myself, and also anticipating retort from
likes of
Craig suggesting I know nothing about oppression...).
Anyway, just thought I'd post the following which was from one of the UK
Community Psychology Conferences (which I didn't attend) but which gives
different people's ideas about what community psychology is:
Definitions of CP
When social groups and organisations accept and acknowledge individuals
fairly, they can support, nurture and protect them, rather than
undermine,
incapacitate and bully them. When community operates in this way it
becomes
a self supporting system that requires less energy than one that is
constantly tripping itself up as it tries to walk forward.
(Steph Meadows and Rachel Parcell, Greenroots, Devon)
Community psychology aims to promote public mental health through
reducing
and preventing social causes of distress and contesting oppression and
social injustice. It seeks to do this through the critical and continual
reflection and action of praxis, by working with others in a
collaborative
approach and in the context of the real world.
(The Stirling Community Psychology Group)
Community psychology offers a framework for a way of working with those
marginalised by the social system, that leads to self-aware social
change,
with an emphasis on value based, participatory work and the forging of
alliances: it is a way of working that is pragmatic and reflexive,
whilst
not wedded to any particular orthodoxy of method.
(Carolyn Kagan, Manchester)
Community psychology is one alternative to the dominant individualistic
psychology typically taught and practised in the high income countries.
It
is 'community' psychology because it emphasises a level of analysis and
intervention other than the individual and their immediate interpersonal
context. It is community 'psychology' because it is nevertheless
concerned
with how people feel, think, experience and act as they work together,
resisting oppression and struggling to create a better world. Community
psychology tries to offer its (pretty rudimentary) insights and tools,
with
humility, to movements of people who are (or are at risk of being
excluded
or marginalised, hurt or threatened, impoverished or oppressed, and to
those
trying to help people in these situations.
(Mark Burton, Manchester)
Community psychology attempts to correct the individualistic bias in
psychology by considering 'persons in context'. It is therefore about
trying to understand and assist people in their natural settings and
social
systems. It is concerned with individual and families within their
informal
social networks, their neighbourhoods, their communities, their towns,
the
interest groups with which they identify. It is particularly concerned
to
use psychology to combat inequality and injustice and to promote
acceptance
of diversity. Community psychologists tend to work with marginalised
groups
and more deprived communities. Empowerment, social support and sense of
community are amongst its leading concepts.
(Jim Orford, Birmingham)
* Critical debate of key issues in community psychology and
related
approaches;
* Personal health, human development and social justice;
* Progressive influence of community psychology on practice and
policy;
* Dismantling and/or circumvention of disabling societal
barriers
and psychologically damaging contexts and practices;
* Wider awareness of, and teaching, training, research and
practice
in, community psychology;
* Solidarity, collaboration and mutual respect between community
psychologists and marginalised, disempowered and oppressed people;
* Social change to nurture and sustain psychological, collective
and
physical well-being.
(Statement of draft objectives from the draft constitution of the
proposed
new European Community Psychology Association which it is hoped will be
formed at the fifth European congress on community psychology held in
Berlin, 16-19 September 2004.)
Community psychology is a way of sharing psychology - we are all
"psychologists" in everyday life as we try to understand and support one
another: we need to value non-expert knowledge and offer professional
psychological knowledge for the service of our communities. Community
psychology can inspire us to put relationships and mutual respect at the
heart of our lives and work; push us to nurture strengths, resilience
and
creativity in ourselves and others; keep us humble yet optimistic in
drawing
on both our everyday and expert knowledge of psychology; encourage us to
act
in solidarity to challenge the silencing and oppression which we can all
both suffer and inflict on others in our diverse communities. Community
psychology can be as much a way of being as a way of knowing or doing
things - and while it can be a place where people share ideas and
values, we
also have conflict, disagreement, uncertainty and doubt.
(Annie Mitchell, Exeter)
Community Psychology is concerned with the fact that economic and social
configurations of power and resources generate adversity and pain for
communities and individuals. Injustice and inequality translate into
psychological experiences of powerlessness so that disadvantage is
cumulative. Community Psychology is a perspective which seeks to:
* clarify the ways in which individuals and social structures
interact to influence psychological and social well-being and distress,
and
to analyse the inherent use and misuse of power
* facilitate, share and if appropriate, represent issues common
to
particular communities and groups
* promote social and environmental change in order to prevent
rather
than respond to peoples' difficulties
The scope of work in community psychology is wide- ranging, not limited
by
particular professional allegiances, and aspires to be radical, critical
and
egalitarian. Activities may take the form of Action Research, co-working
with community groups, and influencing social policy.
(Jan Bostock, Newcastle)
I would add that community psychology also provides a frame of reference
encouraging a transparency to our work. Working towards a psychological
transparency includes:
* Sharing with others rather than doing to others
* Using ordinary language rather than specialist language
* Working with humility and modesty rather than expertise
* Accepting unfamiliarity and not knowing rather than predictive
certainty
* Learning from others rather than prescriptive knowledge.
(Bob Diamond, Nottingham)
Community psychology - it's not rocket science (it's much harder than
that!)
(The Stirling Community Psychology Group)
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> Dear Jacqui,
> Thank you again for your reply, it was a very positive response to
the
> efforts we have made in a confused situation in the London Borough of
> Camden. I apologise again for my hasty reply to you, incorrectly
> addressed, as I have had my head down in a presentation to a
postgrad
> seminar in London, pursuing my own research interest as a retired
> psychologist, and have just surfaced.
>
> Your e-mail suggests that you have no overwhelming quarrel with the
way
> in which I have presented my material on the discussion list,
although my
> contributions have been completely a-theoretical. Or, alternatively,
> that in the circumstances the lack of theory is less important than a
> positive outcome, if it is viewed as a positive outcome. However,
one
> of the leading members of the network has taken me to task in a
personal
> e-mail, over my contributions as not being "community psychology",
and,
> equally not being "critical psychology", and urging me to read
Foucault
> and others. The strong feeling was left that my contributions were
not
> appropriate
> on this website, as I say, not being "community psychology".
>
> I run the risk of stirring up difficulties between members by writing
to
> you, and this is not my intention, as it is counterproductive.
However,
> I would like to explore this with you to get a possibly alternative
view,
> as I find the situation personally painful., and somewhat worrying
> academically. I feel that issues of principle should be addressed
> openly in an website, and that it is possible to do this in a civil
> manner. Thus I would like to achieve a more positive perspective on
> what I have contributed, and also find some resolution to a sense of
> having acted unprofessionally in doing so.
>
> I have replied yesterday to the correspondent, asking that person for
an
> EXEMPLAR of a similar situation or issue which HAD been addressed in
a
> manner which fitted the concept of "community psychology": which i
feel
> is a reasonable request. I have also canvassed yesterday
> in the local community management to see whether there are other
issues,
> such as "youth facilities'" where a research or action approach which
is
> deemed more "community psychology"
> might be applied, and I may receive a preliminary reply this week.
For
> information, one of the
> community psychology fraternity (Dr. Tim Anstiss) did offer his
services
> free, but our committee has not taken this up, as I have just
reminded
> the local manager of the community centre).
>
> My background is a B.Sc. (Experimental Psychology), and M.Sc. (Social
> Psychology), both London degrees and the latter from LSE. In
scrolling
> down my in-box for the name of the local
> community centre manager re future research, I noted your name as a
> contributor to the website earlier, and that you, yourself are from a
> Social Psychology background. Therefore, I feel reasonably
comfortable
> writing to you on this topic. My correspondent pointed out that you
had
> been extremely active in trying to promote the Community Psychology
> Section, and I think this is sorely needed. When we started research
> here, I did not know that there was such a thing as community
psychology,
> and we were winging it. ( Also I have personally benefitted in my
own
> research through my contact with Dr. Cameron, though that is a side
> issue).
>
> When I posted my first contribution about difficulties on the estate,
I
> received a personal reply from Craig Newnes, suggesting that "the
problems
> may be your fault" i.e. my fault. There was no attempt to explain
what
> this might mean, and I was simply furious about this. A discussion
> about this with certain other members ensued, and I found it so
painful
> and infuriating that I probably still have some of the e- mails
unopened.
> There are times when one can deal with this sort of thing and times
when
> one cannot.
>
> As regards the overall situation, I have some sympathy with the
complaint
> just made to me that this is, in a sense, not "community psychology".
Yet
> it does show the ambiguities of action in the community in full
light,
> which it is more than likely that academic reports may smooth over
so
> that they appear more clear-cut in their application than is likely
in
> real life. I simply do not have the time nor the wish to present
this
> material in a more sophisticated way. One reason is that
> there are behind-the-scene issues which we are never going to be able
to
> access, such as the
> complex of factors which have led the staff and line-managers in the
> Housing Office covering our estate, to be more forthcoming with money
and
> more co-operative. The reasons may be quite arbitrary, or they may
be
> quite subtle and hidden. One factor, is that, I personally, went
out of
> my way to be accommodating (as Secretary of the Tenants Assocaition,
> literally encouraging access to contractors on Decent Homes work, to
use
> facilities that could be modified as offices, which were empty here,
thus
> facilitating work which was behind schedule for the whole of Holborn,
and
> I always try to act in that positive spirit)
>
> I was very struck by the positive way in which you dealt with Craig
Newnes
> complaint about IAPT
> and think your response is a model of how these issues should be
aired.
> Without reading any Foucault or other recommended readers, I feel
that
> Craig in particular is not living in the real world, and has some
> idealised vision of idealised social action which simply doesn't
happen
> without some strong motivation behind it. From time to time social
> situations become so intolerable, with someone sufficiently energetic
and
> able to provide a focal point, that action does occur which can make
a
> substantial difference. In a sense, this is what happened on our
> estate, though the element of intolerability was long term and
grinding,
> rather than arising out of
> serious hazards which occur on other estates.
>
> I am really putting myself in your hands to an extent, because social
> psychology also has its
> hard-edged side in experimental work, such as "Embodied Grounding"
(2008)
> Semin. G. R. and Smith, E. R. Cambridge, Cambridge University Press
and
> much of this work is valuable. However, there is always the gulf
between
> theory/experimental work, and practice. I have been concerned that
in
> the field I am working in which is roughly "intuition" I have
received
> another personal attack, as I perceive it, questioning my
truthfulness as
> regards some data I offered.
> I have written to a senior woman psychologist in the BPS about the
issue
> of personal attacks, even if they are not in public, as I think this
is a
> serious professional issue, which has a potential to be cut short
serious
> debate about the nature of acceptable data in psychology. My
current
> correspondent in the community psychology network is not consciously
> trying to do this, but, nevertheless, by failing to offer an
exemplar, I
> think is putting the burden upon me, when I have already offered
> something which I consider to be valuable, in favour of some rather
> nebulous
> ideal.
>
> I am sure you are extremely busy, but it has eased my sense of having
> acted in an unprofessional manner by posting the material about
Tybalds,
> by sharing some of this burden with you. I would be grateful if you
> could take it at face value and NOT try to locate the source of the
> comments at this stage. Perhaps you could see a way in which this
issue
> might be aired ont the network, as I have also had one or two
positive
> comments, that what I wrote was helpful - seeming to suggest that
others
> were grappling with situations which theory was not able to
accommodate
> readily. I would also love to see Craig Newnes state what it is he
is
> seeking in terms of "community psychology", so that we could be
spared
> random firing from his direction.
>
> Finally, I am putting forward the notion of a one day symposium on
> Innovative Psychology, to be run in London each year, to Dr. Cameron
who
> has feet in several camps and who organisedthe postgrad seminar
jointly
> between the Positive Psychology group and the London Section. My aim
> would be to attract the attention of the media and put pressure on
> decision makers to be more innovative. A consultant child
psychologist
> at the postgrad day was bemoaning the fact that there were many
> innovations his research team would like to offer mothers and babies
in
> distress, but could not get them sufficient attention within the
present
> system. I hope to discuss this shortly with Dr. Cameron, whose remit
is
> positive psychology, which has come under some attack recently, and
> so"innovative" might be more appropriate. Do you have any views
about
> this idea, and do you feel community psychologists could contribute
to
> such a day. I asked my correspondent about this, but the point was
not
> answered.
>
> Thank you for your patience.
> Yours sincerely,
> Erica Brostoff, M.Sc.
> (BPS Member 002118)
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 20 Apr 2010, at 14:17, Jacqueline Akhurst (J.Akhurst) wrote:
>
>> Dear Erica,
>>
>> It is encouraging to hear that your persistence and the work of some
>> courageous people have resulted in improvements for all of you. In
this
>> time when we seem to be assailed by stories of failure and
difficulty,
>> it is good to hear an account of hopefulness.
>>
>> Jacqui (A.)
>>
>>
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>> Subject: [COMMUNITYPSYCHUK] Activity on the Tybalds Estate
>>
>> Dear Network Members
>> I have posted information about our Estate in Central London on two
>> previous occasions and I am writing to report enormous progress, at
>> least in the physical appearance of the estate and the satisfaction
>> of the committee and facilities for residents. The Holborn Housing
>> Office, is apparently making real efforts to make good the neglect of
>> the estate in previous years, and from various pots of money
>> available either through competitive bids that this estate can make,
>> or from government initiatives or Decent Homes finance, the following
>> improvements have been made.
>> 1. Changing a dog toilet to an orchard
>> 2. Significant raised beds for plants which match in design and
>> materials a new recycling area
>> and also matched wooden bollards to a design chosen by the committee,
>> which is very harmonious to look at.
>> 3. New lifts in two blocks
>> 4. Plans in train for a survey of underground services (gas,
>> electricity, water etc.) in a central area, prior to a design to
>> rehabilate this for better recreation
>> 5. A Pathfinder semi-natural playground updated from the former
>> playground (Government funds)
>> 6. Closure of one of the exits to make the estate less vulnerable.
>> There are still five or six exits, so a complaint from one resident
>> that it is becoming like a ghetto is somewhat surprising.
>> 7/ Plans for thorough cleaning of stairs and landings, with
>> consultation with tenants
>> 8. Vastly improved relations with Housing staff, for which there is
>> credit on both sides, but particularly that the Housing staff are
>> less defensive.
>>
>> I think credit is due to Dr. Sean Cameron, who conducted a research
>> into residents' needs two to three years ago, and to myself in
>> sticking it out as Secretary when the situation was almost
>> intolerable, and when the rest of the committee would have resigned
>> if I had done so. At the time the committee as a whole judged that
>> this would have not have made any real impact, but what did make
>> impact was the Council ignoring their own planning rules and causing
>> disruption which could be challenged by Councillors, thus putting the
>> Housing office at a disadvantage. Also, as mentioned previously,
>> the input of psychologists into the selection procedure for new
staff.
>>
>> I am prompted to write now, as Craig seems to have a view that
>> psychologists have nothing to offer society, even if they happen to
>> be, among other things, qualified in Social Psychology with
>> backgrounds also in Sociology and Anthropology. Although he has
>> indicated strong feelings
>> it is not quite clear what his view is of how improvements in
>> people's well-being is to be achieved and it would be helpful if this
>> could be made explicit, as he is such a frequent contributor to the
>> network, and not necessarily known personally to all.
>>
>> With thanks,
>> Erica Brostoff.
>>
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