Many thanks to everyone for your help..... it helps to talk........ lets you
see the wood from the trees.
Regards
Alan
Alan Hunt
Access Officer
Pembrokeshire County Council
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Ooops and me, so sorry!
Sue
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Sent: 28 April 2010 17:18
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Hi Stewart, sorry for mis-spelling your forename, should know it by now!
Cheers.
John.
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Sent: 28 April 2010 16:31
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Subject: Re: Part M and change of use
Hi
Part m requires 1 in 20 or any part thereof. BS8300 applies slightly more
onerous criteria.
Under B Reg M you provide an access statement stating that the spatial
limitations in squeezing 3 bedrooms into the existing shell preclude the
provision of a Part m wheelchair access toilet/ shower. Building Control in
approving this will accept no responsibility for DDA claims against the
service provider.
However by not providing an accessible room anywhere in the hotel the
service provider will be at risk under the DDA.
To avoid the risk is it possible to design 1 room with a wheelchair access
toilet /shower within a tighter footprint than the AD M model?
Alternatively is it worth considering reducing the fit out to 2 ensuite
rooms at least one of which would provide space within the bedroom and
ensuite for comfortable wheelchair access?
This is a client risk assessment situation.
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Alan Hunt
Sent: 28 April 2010 16:05
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Subject: Part M and change of use
Hi All
I have been asked to advise on a change of use application from a guest
house accommodation provider. They want to convert an old, stand alone,
stone outbuildiing into extra bedroom accommodation with ensuite facilities.
The 3 units are very small and although the entrances etc will be level and
accessible there is not room for any of the bedrooms to have an accessible
shower room / toilet measuring 2.4m x 2.5m. as per Part M. The developer
is keen to provide an eccessible facility but the design submitted is just
too small to be of use to a wheelchair user for instance and there is no
scope to enlarge within the existing outbuilding. BS8300 suggests 1 bedroom
in 20 should be accessible but does give a minimum number (eg 1) this guest
house has less than 15 rooms.
The problem is the change of use criteria which states that all such work
shall be carried out as is necessary to ensure that the building complies
with the applicable requirements of Schedule 1.
any advice gratefully received.
regards
alan
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