Totally agree with Stuart. But it will also be worth considering the wider
impact when deciding the best way forward. Emergency egress, circulation
from the main entrance, access to dining room and parking will also need to
be considered.
Regards
Sue
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From: Accessibuilt list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of
Curry, Paul
Sent: 28 April 2010 16:39
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Subject: Re: Part M and change of use
Hi,
Given that there are already rooms available that aren't accessible
could you use the Disability Equality Duty to encourage the Planning
team to only accept a design that includes accessible facilities? Is it
possible to compromise and convert an existing room so that it is
accessible?
It may also be possible to explain that a whole new market of potential
customers could open up to this Guest House through accessible
facilities.
If developers only have to design in such a way that accessible
facilities can't fit into the space then we'll be stuck with change of
use requests that could have accessibility designed out. This isn't any
good for anyone.
Thanks
Paul
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From: Accessibuilt list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf
Of Stewart McGough
Sent: 28 April 2010 16:31
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Subject: Re: [ACCESSIBUILT] Part M and change of use
Hi
Part m requires 1 in 20 or any part thereof. BS8300 applies slightly
more onerous criteria.
Under B Reg M you provide an access statement stating that the spatial
limitations in squeezing 3 bedrooms into the existing shell preclude the
provision of a Part m wheelchair access toilet/ shower. Building Control
in approving this will accept no responsibility for DDA claims against
the service provider.
However by not providing an accessible room anywhere in the hotel the
service provider will be at risk under the DDA.
To avoid the risk is it possible to design 1 room with a wheelchair
access toilet /shower within a tighter footprint than the AD M model?
Alternatively is it worth considering reducing the fit out to 2 ensuite
rooms at least one of which would provide space within the bedroom and
ensuite for comfortable wheelchair access?
This is a client risk assessment situation.
Stewart McGough
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-----Original Message-----
From: Accessibuilt list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf
Of Alan Hunt
Sent: 28 April 2010 16:05
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Subject: Part M and change of use
Hi All
I have been asked to advise on a change of use application from a guest
house accommodation provider. They want to convert an old, stand alone,
stone outbuildiing into extra bedroom accommodation with ensuite
facilities. The 3 units are very small and although the entrances etc
will be level and accessible there is not room for any of the bedrooms
to have an accessible shower room / toilet measuring 2.4m x 2.5m. as
per Part M. The developer is keen to provide an eccessible facility but
the design submitted is just too small to be of use to a wheelchair user
for instance and there is no scope to enlarge within the existing
outbuilding. BS8300 suggests 1 bedroom in 20 should be accessible but
does give a minimum number (eg 1) this guest house has less than 15
rooms.
The problem is the change of use criteria which states that all such
work shall be carried out as is necessary to ensure that the building
complies with the applicable requirements of Schedule 1.
any advice gratefully received.
regards
alan
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