Hey Mark.... Breathe In with the love and out with the hate!! LOL !
Well said!! I shall certainly take all that on board as hands up, I
didn't know that the GP's workload was that extreme! I shall in future be
more sympathetic!!!
Jo
Dr Mark O'Connor <[log in to unmask]>@JISCMAIL.AC.UK on
04/03/2010 16:31:41
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My practice has 7000 patients. Probably 3000 different employers. How can
one practice possibly have any sort of sensible liaision with that many
employers?
If there were one massive employer immedaitely adjacent to a small practice
with a population that overlapped then I can see some
sense in establishing some links with HR departments for mutual benefit
The realitly however is that GPs are busier now than at any time in the
past and recent estimates indicate the job intensity has more than doubled
in the last 10 years. I can testify to daily requests for meetings with a
plethora of organisations, individuals working for PCTs, physios, outreach
teams, hospices, district nurses, health visitors, patient participation
groups, clinical governance teams, deanery... add to this the massive shift
in undergraduate and postgraduate teaching that has taken place from
secondary to primary care and then add the new contract Quality and
Outcomes framework which has seen a massive expansion ( mostly good ) of
formalised efficient follow up of most chronic diseases and you start to
get some idea that you have to compete for our time
Each GP in my practice receives at least 50 letters a day relating to
patients many of which require further actioning and about 30 blood test
result, xray etc per day.. to review
We process approx 200 repeat scripts per day all of which need checking
agianst the notes, ... oh and we see 600+ patients per week also - so
please do not be offended if your approaches for meetings are dealt with by
the round filing cabinet!
General Practice has changed massivly in the last 5 years and I'm not sure
many of you realise this - in fact I think the tone of many posts and
responses on this list suggest a fairly fixed sterotypical idea about a
typical GP [dons flak jacket ;) ]
Mark
On 4 March 2010 11:11, Rita Ogden <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
This sounds familiar as I did something similar and was constantly shot
down in flames, often by practice managers rather than GPs! Such a shame
when you think what could potentially be achieved by closer partnership
working!
Rita
Rita E.Ogden
Lead Occupational Health Specialist Practitioner
Occupational Health Service
Westbrook Building 9H
Bradford College
Great Horton Road
Bradford BD7 1AY
Tel: 01274 433259
From: [log in to unmask] [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
Behalf Of Tracey Moore
Sent: 04 March 2010 11:08
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Subject: Re: Fit Note PP presentation
Hi Rita
One of our customers is working with OH to send out letters to the local
GP's stating the support which will be available short term and the
duties they are required to do. They will also inform the GP that
alternative/lighter duties will not be available long term. Whether this
wil be successfull, or the letter thrown in the bin, we will just need to
wait and see.
I have tried in the past to work with GP's and arranged for them to
visist a call centre that we supported, in an attempt to show the support
available and wasnt such the torture place, employees were making it out
to be. However this failed, as several GP threatened to report us.
Sometime you feel like you just cant win
tracey
Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 09:51:21 +0000
From: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [OCC-HEALTH] Fit Note PP presentation
To: [log in to unmask]
Bradford College
Hi,
Thank you for this, I am meeting with HR this morning and the
presentation will be a massive help in getting the information across
regarding the new Fit Notes. On this topic, can I ask my esteemed
colleagues if anyone has liaised with GPs regarding the potential for
closer working relationships between GPs and OH professionals to ensure
the success of the Fit Notes? In my view this is crucial to their
success. I have tried in the past to arrange meetings with local GPs with
no success. Any advice would be gratefully received.
Kind regards,
Rita
Rita E.Ogden
Lead Occupational Health Specialist Practitioner
Occupational Health Service
Westbrook Building 9H
Bradford College
Great Horton Road
Bradford BD7 1AY
Tel: 01274 433259
From: [log in to unmask] [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
Behalf Of Dr Mark O'Connor
Sent: 24 February 2010 18:22
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Fit Note PP presentation
Very nice and has saved me a couple of hours tonight preparing a ppt for
a tutorial with our registrar!
Thanks
As a small token I have added the sample picture of the fit note to the
end of your presentation
Cheers
Mark
On 24 February 2010 15:06, Andy Heslop <[log in to unmask]>
wrote:
All,
As promised, please find attached my attempt. Even managed to nick a few
choice lines from Anne-Marie's management brief (and have hopefully
covered
the points mentioned earlier in Mark's mail). Please feel free to chop
and
change as you see fit. Haven't got the necessary skills to add a copy of
the
Statement so plan to issue a copy of the DWP guide for employers at the
time
of the briefing, together with a summary of the key points.
We have a working group meeting next Friday to discuss exactly how this
will
impact the business and what needs to be changed in our current
policies/procedures. Will keep you posted.
Regards,
Andy
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