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Re: American Chemical Society New Platform Doesn't Support ATHENS

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Steven Tweedie <[log in to unmask]>

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An informal open list set up by UKSG - Connecting the Information Community <[log in to unmask]>

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Hi Nicole, Mark

is there anywhere we as publishers and agents can pick up a guide to  
the correct terminology and best practice in this area. We are working  
on an Athens and Shibboleth implementation right now and I'd like to  
avoid similar "critique" when we launch.

thanks

Steve


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On 17 Mar 2010, at 13:20, Nicole Harris wrote:

> Hi Lesley
>
> Just to add to what Mark says, all you need to do is contact ACS and  
> ask to be added to their publisher WAYF, which is here: http://pubs.acs.org/action/ssostart 
> , citing your entity ID which is |https://idp.herts.ac.uk/shibboleth  
> for the University of Hertfordshire.
> ACS are wrong to have used the word 'shibboleth login' instead of  
> the recommend home institution / organisation as the word  
> 'shibboleth' is entirely misleading, and we have contacted them  
> about this.   Even if a publisher drops the Athens login box from  
> their site, athens users will be able to access via the federated  
> route.
> I'm afraid we will see more and more publishers choosing to drop the  
> 'Athens' link from their home pages due to the costs of maintaining  
> this, so it is essential that we hassle them to get their  
> terminology right!
> Hope that helps
>
> Nicole
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> Mark Williams (JISC) wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> If a Service provider has made content available through the UK  
>> federation, then Open Athens institutions who are members of the UK  
>> Federation will be able to access the content.
>>
>> I think the problem here is that the term Shibboleth has become  
>> synonymous with the Federation, when actually Service Providers  
>> mean providing access via the federation (meaning shibboleth and  
>> Open Athens users).
>>
>> If anyone has any questions please feel free to reply off list.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Mark
>>
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: An informal open list set up by UKSG - Connecting the  
>> Information Community [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On  
>> Behalf Of Crawshaw, Lesley A
>> Sent: 17 March 2010 12:20
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: [LIS-E-RESOURCES] American Chemical Society New Platform  
>> Doesn't Support ATHENS
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Following on from the discussion about problems with ATHENS access  
>> to Creative Club I thought I'd raise a related issue of another  
>> publisher, ACS, which only provides Shibboleth and IP access on its  
>> new platform.
>>
>> I did raise the issue of when access to ATHENS was going to be  
>> available on the new ACS platform through NESLi2 at the end of 2009  
>> and was told that they had bypassed ATHENS and gone straight to  
>> Shibboleth compliancy. I did question this as we are not currently  
>> using Shibboleth (and I know we aren't the only institution in this  
>> position) and was told that ACS wouldn't be implementing ATHENS as  
>> they saw this as becoming obsolete.
>>
>> I have to say I wasn't happy with this response as other new  
>> platforms e.g. Informa Healthcare have recently become compliant  
>> with ATHENS (and presumably Shibboleth).
>>
>> If IHC can provide access through ATHENS, why can't the ACS? Surely  
>> the ACS should be trying to meet the needs of all its customers,  
>> not just those who have already moved to Shibboleth.
>>
>> I just wondered whether others are in the same position.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Lesley
>>
>>
>> Lesley Crawshaw
>> Knowledge &  Business Intelligence Consultant
>> Information Hertfordshire
>> University of Hertfordshire
>> Tel: 01707 285508
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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