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John Conway wrote:
> very widely used phrase in the UK
> "brownies" are pre- girl guides over here too ...... in fact, I always assumed both organisations originated in the UK???
>
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> You're post has been a learning experience for me for reasons you would
> least suspect. I do, by the way, agree that there could be more publicity
> than substance in this development from Google and this could create
> rather than solving the problem of these videos for people with hearing
> disabilities. But what caught my attention was your use of the phrase
> brownie points.
>
>
> Brownie points
> From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brownie_points>
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>
> I had always thougnt that this phrase had its origins with the pre-Girl
> Scout group in America called Brownies. I also note that most if not all
> of the suspected origins of this phrase are American. Hence, I was a bit
> suprised to see in used by a person with an email address from England.
> Is that phrase much used in Great Britain. Just curious. By the way, my
> first camera was free for putting money in a Savings and Loan and it was a
> Kodak Brownie camera.
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> On Sun, 7 Mar 2010, Larry Arnold wrote:
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>> Unfortunately the technology even the best of it is not up to the task as
>> someone who has used dragon speaking naturally, and indeed the technology
>> supposedly built into adobe's latest editing suite it renders much of my
>> speech, and indeed my contemporaries as garbage, it's not up to regional
>> accent, or unusual stress patterns in speech, and has to be trained on
>> individual speakers to improve accuracy.
>>
>> There is a further danger in automatic subtitling, in that it may in some
>> instances obscure the pre-existing subtitles and text already there thus
>> defeating the object.
>>
>> The problem is that a machine is attempting to do what humans ought to, but
>> I doubt Google cares because all they want is not really clarity but PC
>> brownie points.
>>
>> Larry
>>
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>>> RECOGNITION SOFTWARE: YouTube Adds Video Captions for Deaf
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>>> INTERNET: SEARCH: MEDIA SPECIFIC TOOLS AND RESOURCES :
>>> VIDEOS :
>>> BUSINESS: NAMED COMPANIES: GOOGLE, YOUTUBE :
>>> DISABILITIES: DEAFNESS AND HEARING IMPAIRMENT :
>>> SOFTWARE: SPEECH RECOGNITION SOFTWARE:
>>> YouTube Adds Video Captions for Deaf
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> YouTube Adds Video Captions for Deaf
>>> By Maggie Shiels
>>> Technology reporter
>>> BBC News
>>> Silicon Valley
>>> Page last updated at 01:33 GMT, Friday, 5 March 2010
>>> <http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8550830.stm>
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>>>
>>>
>>> YouTube is making the tens of millions of videos it hosts more accessible
>>> to the deaf and hard of hearing by putting automatic captions on them.
>>>
>>>
>>> The Google-owned company said this use of speech recognition technology is
>>> probably the biggest experiment of its kind online.
>>>
>>>
>>> Previously captions were only on a small amount of content.
>>>
>>>
>>> "A core part of YouTube's DNA is access to content," said the firm's
>>> product manager Hunter Walk.
>>>
>>>
>>> YouTube said by opening all this content to those who have not really been
>>> able to access it in the past should democratise information and "help
>>> foster greater collaboration and understanding".
>>>
>>>
>>> Initially the feature will apply to English language videos, with other
>>> languages being added in the coming months.
>>>
>>>
>>> In November last year, YouTube rolled out automatic captions to a handful
>>> of partners including the University of California, Berkeley, Yale
>>> University and National Geographic.
>>>
>>>
>>> 'Real solution'
>>>
>>>
>>> The technology behind speech recognition has been around for about 50
>>> years, said Google engineer Mike Cohen, and has finally become good enough
>>> to be used on a large scale.
>>>
>>>
>>> "I have been working on speech technology for 25 years," Mr Cohen told the
>>> BBC.
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>>>
>>> "There have been steady improvements and this is the culmination of lots
>>> of work over years and years. We have had to work on a wide variety of
>>> problems like accent variation, background noise, the variation in
>>> language, in pronunciation."
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