hi Jake,
Jake Stratton-Kent <[log in to unmask]>:
> my original comment ... was that like it or not the
> public see magicians, pagans etc. as New Agers ....
interesting. perhaps they lump 'em all in together
on account of the NRM standouts (of which the New
Age contingent is quite possibly a prime visible).
> ...Lionel Snell (aka Ramsey Dukes) ....
> often wore a crystal round his neck and said positive
> things about virtually every possible spirituality/occultism
> etc..He once got some hard core Chaos Magicians to experiment
> with 'Holy Roller' ritual formats; initially greeted with
> groans, once they got going they found it stimulating and
> educational.
how fun! I think there's something to be learned from all
quarters and have almost always found benefit from every
subculture i took the time to investigate.
> ...my emphasis is completely separate from some of
> the stuff you guys appear to focus on.
I tend to like what you emphasize, especially your
focus on how people have used words and viewed
phenomena differently through time.
> I'm far more a magician accessing academia than an
> academic studying magic.
that's in part what this forum seeks to facilitate:
the meeting place of these two overlapping social
spheres. I'm very happy it exists for this reason.
> ...some *informed* opinions on various subjects are
> exactly what I am seeking ....
you ask some excellent questions, and ones which are
quite beyond my ability to address. I'm hoping that
they'll be addressed by those with the background, but
i don't think that silence on a topic is necessarily
an indicator that it is the wrong question or the
wrong forum. it may just mean that those who have the
ability to serve a proper answer haven't the time on
that day. :)
nagasiva yronwode ([log in to unmask]), Director
YIPPIE*! -- http://www.yronwode.org/
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