I found a great Iphone resource it is called skeptical science http://itunes.apple.com/gb/app/skeptical-science/id353938484?mt=8 it has a list of all the claims by deniers with evidence about climate change. I Know it is for iphone users but it is a nice little resource. It is called getting skeptical about global warming skepticism. they have a website too http://www.skepticalscience.com/argument.php
I am encouraging my students to be evidence based and to assess evidence.
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On 28 Feb 2010, at 10:11, Stephan Matthiesen wrote:
> Hello Richard,
>
> Am Dienstag 16 Februar 2010 schrieb Richard Ellam:
>>> I have seen many science communication "shows", and many do appear
>>> as shows - slick presentations of "fun"tastic phenomena etc. But
> ..
>> As a science communicator of the kind who writes and presents Science
>> Shows (see www.lminteractive.co.uk if you want to know more about
>> me) I feel that I need to defend what I do from some of Stephan's
>> remarks,
>
> I'm sorry if you felt offended by my remarks. I do not know your show and
> cannot comment on it. Also, I believe I made it clear that my criticism was
> not intended for any and all science communication activities.
>
> However, as somebody with one foot in the active scientific world and a
> (smaller) foot in the science communication world I believe that we always
> have to reflect critically which image of science is portrayed. And while there
> are good activities, there are also rather bad ones.
>
>> and also to possibly explain why people like me don't tend
>> to talk about Climate Change, and why this is a BAD THING (emphasis
>> intended).
>
> Fair enough if this topic doesn't fit into your portfolio; everybody has to find
> their niche. As a general statement however I find this rather disappointing,
> as we climate scientists really need some help right now.
>
> I'm very surprised that the science engagement community that is represented
> on this list has shown very little interest in the development of the last
> three months. What we've seen in the last few months has been described as an
> "almost complete collapse in reporting standards across the UK media"
> (http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2010/02/the-guardian-
> disappoints/).
>
> In the science community there are enormous debates how this breakdown
> happened and what can be done about it. I'm really surprised that this list is
> so quiet about this and that there have been hardly any intensive in-depth
> discussions on the situation, on the role of the media, the scientists and the
> science engagement community, whether they define themselves as PUS or PEST.
>
>> Having spoke to a number of people over the years who evidenced
>> varying degrees of skepticism about Climate Change, and read some of
>> the rubbish they publish I've come to the conclusion that a LOT of
>> these people are actually ignorant of the basic physics driving the
>> whole process of climate change. I think that one of the most
>> powerful arguments against thoes who would deny climate change is to
>> actually be able to show them the basic process at work before their
>> eyes, and therein lies the rub.
>
> I'm sorry, but this is simply not true. The situation is much more
> complicated, and only a small proportion doubt the fundamental physics
> (although I have seen some). Here is a typical quote from a skeptic that I got
> just a few days ago, but I could fill whole books with similar quotes:
>
> "I am actually a 'warming believer', in the sense that I feel sure putting the
> previously sequestered carbon of fossil fuel reserves into the atmosphere MUST
> result in warming, all else being equal. However, it is not clear that all
> else IS equal. We had an interesting post recently about the deep ocean
> current cycles, and I think the total-solar-irradiance has diminished over the
> last decade, with synergistic effects on atmospheric water vapor. "
>
> It seems to me, that the lack of understanding is not about fundamental
> physics, but about the practicalities of researching complex systems. Perhaps
> more importantly there is the matter of trust, cultural values and coherence
> in society, see for example:
> http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v463/n7279/full/463269a.html
> http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v463/n7279/full/463296a.html
>
> I believe Naomi Oreskes is about to publish a book on the Skeptics which will
> certainly highlight many of these issues.
>
> In a historical perspective, I would also look at the anti-vaccination
> movement starting in 1853 when smallpox vaccination was made compulsory by an
> Act of Parliament in the UK. In my impression, you find the same kind of
> arguments as well as social issues at work there.
>
> Cheers
> Stephan
>
> --
> Stephan Matthiesen
> http://www.stephan-matthiesen.de
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>
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