Gail
The last part makes me question some of my assumptions when I tried it out. I had worked on the basis that I was choosing the image that best represented the accession and provided the most complete detail. For example I rejected all crops of the vintage photographs as in one way or another they lost part of the image, or the all important captioning. And I also tended to choose the images that included the colour bars, but maybe that's some subliminal message telling me that I always wanted to be a curator really!
Anyway, I have now reassessed and tried it out a bit more, and have a couple more suggestions:
- put some broader guidelines up (though I confess I have just visited the crowdsourcing home page and now read it properly!); include these guidelines, or a link to them, or maybe random 'did you knows', from pages within where you're making choices
- from what I can see I didn't receive any acknowledgement email, but if you sent one, it would be good to have basic instructions in there
- maybe my suggestion of users choosing alternative 'enhanced' images isn't so daft?
- a tool to straighten images might be useful, especially for the photographs and paintings/illustrations
- I assume once it is out of beta you'll have direct links from artefact pages to the equivalent crowdsourcing page for that artefact?
Please take all these comments in the context of hopefully helpful feedback on what I appreciate is very much a beta (at least in your minds - in my mind it feels pretty good, a bit like the 'beta' Flickr that I and hundreds of thousands of others used for years!)
Regards, James
----------------------------------------------------------------------
James Morley [log in to unmask]
Website Manager Tel. +44 (0)20 8332 5759
Royal Botanic Gardens, Kew www.kew.org
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
________________________________________
From: Museums Computer Group [[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Gail Durbin [[log in to unmask]]
Sent: 04 February 2010 18:42
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: V&A Crowdsourcing
Thank you to the various people who have responded so quickly to the V&A Crowdsourcing activity.
http://collections.vam.ac.uk/crowdsourcing/
I am very grateful for mentions of bugs and glitches and Mark Hook will be dealing with some of the more technical issues. (I should mention that John Stephen one of our developers has been responsible for putting this together.) This functionality will probably stay in Beta for a while.
I loved 'Top of the Crops' and we will think about a more games-like interface. If Frankie is a betting man then he needs to take account of a few other features. Yes, we are showing each image to several people, so that one nutcase cannot cause havoc. We aim not to check every image but to have the cropping selection work automatically. Also 116,867 images is a moving target. Search the Collections pulls its content from our collections information system so records and images are being added all the time.
The greatest benefits will be to our moving wall on the home page which is the browse area of Search the Collections. It is currently spoilt by poor crops, black edges and colour bars. The cropped images also act as the thumbnails on search return pages. If people make crop choices on aesthetic grounds so much the better. This does not seem a major issue as you can get quickly to the object record where there is always an image of the whole object and sometimes a choice of images.
Hope that answers some of your queries. Keep cropping.
Gail
>>> Frankie Roberto <[log in to unmask]> 03 February 2010 >>>
Very nice! I just spent 5 mins working through a dozen or so objects - it's
pretty compelling.
It's also quite a nice interface choosing, cropping and zooming images full
stop. I spent hours and hours doing this by hand in Photoshop whilst at the
Science Museum - even with handy presets and shortcuts, it was a
time-consuming process.
Good luck with reaching the 116,867 target. We could place bets on how long
it'll take to reach it. My money is on 1 year, 2 months - though that's a
complete stab in the dark.
Frankie
On 3 February 2010 15:35, Gail Durbin <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> The V&A has just launched a crowdsourcing application in Beta attached to
> Search the Collections:
> http://collections.vam.ac.uk/crowdsourcing/
> This enables people to help us improve the crop on our images. We would be
> very interested in your responses.
>
> Please send any feedback to Mark Hook at [log in to unmask]
>
> Gail Durbin
> Head of V&A Online
>
>
> - --------------------------------------------------------------
> Decode: Digital Design Sensations
> In partnership with SAP
> The Porter Gallery
> 8 December 2009 - 11 April 2010 at V&A South Kensington
> Book now on www.vam.ac.uk
>
> Sit Down: Seating for Kids
> 6 February - 5 September 2010 at V&A Museum of Childhood
> Admission free
>
> Keep in touch - visit www.vam.ac.uk and sign up for our regular
> e-newsletter
>
> n --------------------------------------------------------------
>
> The information contained in this message is confidential and intended only
> for the individual named above. If you are not the intended recipient,or
> responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient you are hereby
> notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying, or disclosure of
> this information is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received
> this communication in error, please notify us by telephone on 020 7942 2353.
> This message has been scanned for viruses by MessageLabs Email Security
> System www.messagelabs.com/email
>
> ______________________________________________________________________
> This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System.
> For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email
> ______________________________________________________________________
>
> ****************************************************************
> For mcg information visit the mcg website at
> http://museumscomputergroup.org.uk/
> To manage your subscription to this email list visit
> http://museumscomputergroup.org.uk/email-list/
> ****************************************************************
>
--
Frankie Roberto
Experience Designer, Rattle
0114 2706977
http://www.rattlecentral.com
Sent from Manchester, Eng, United Kingdom
****************************************************************
For mcg information visit the mcg website at
http://museumscomputergroup.org.uk/
To manage your subscription to this email list visit
http://museumscomputergroup.org.uk/email-list/
****************************************************************
______________________________________________________________________
This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System.
For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email
______________________________________________________________________
- --------------------------------------------------------------
Decode: Digital Design Sensations
In partnership with SAP
The Porter Gallery
8 December 2009 - 11 April 2010 at V&A South Kensington
Book now on www.vam.ac.uk
Sit Down: Seating for Kids
6 February - 5 September 2010 at V&A Museum of Childhood
Admission free
Keep in touch - visit www.vam.ac.uk and sign up for our regular
e-newsletter
n --------------------------------------------------------------
The information contained in this message is confidential and intended only for the individual named above. If you are not the intended recipient,or responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying, or disclosure of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us by telephone on 020 7942 2353. This message has been scanned for viruses by MessageLabs Email Security System www.messagelabs.com/email
______________________________________________________________________
This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System.
For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email
______________________________________________________________________
****************************************************************
For mcg information visit the mcg website at
http://museumscomputergroup.org.uk/
To manage your subscription to this email list visit
http://museumscomputergroup.org.uk/email-list/
****************************************************************
****************************************************************
For mcg information visit the mcg website at
http://museumscomputergroup.org.uk/
To manage your subscription to this email list visit
http://museumscomputergroup.org.uk/email-list/
****************************************************************
|
