Bit worrying, but not surprising, that the system does not pick this up
and you wonder does it feed into all areas of the SLC's systems. If the
student was repeating for a second time would it then ignore this and
treat them as a new starter and so eligible for full support.
David
Siobhan McCully wrote, On 16/02/2010 09:28:
> Hello David
>
> I would imagine this is because the student completed a PN1 form rather
> than a PR1 form as mentioned and the year of study wasn't checked.
>
> Many thanks
>
> Siobhan McCully
> System Support Officer
> Finance Service
> Southampton Solent University
> 023 80319135
>
>
>
> David Ealey
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> Siobhan
>
> Except that I have had instances of someone showing on HEBSS as a 2009
> starter despite having been on HEBSS for 2007 and 2008. As we do not pay
> the bursary to new starters until they have a final assessment then this
> is causing delays for some students.
>
> David
>
>
> Siobhan McCully wrote, On 16/02/2010 09:12:
>
>> Hello
>>
>> I have found that it tends to come from the form the student completes,
>>
> so
>
>> if they haven't applied for funding before and do in their final year it
>> will give them a status of New Student. I have queried this before and
>>
> if
>
>> I remember rightly was told that they do do checks but it is mainly taken
>> from the completion of a PR1 or PN1 form and the year of the course they
>> are studying isn't checked.
>>
>> Many thanks
>>
>> Siobhan McCully
>> System Support Officer
>> Finance Service
>> Southampton Solent University
>> 023 80319135
>>
>>
>>
>> "Condell, Lynne"
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>> Hi
>>
>> I have had a few issues regarding the 'new student' flag on HEBSS. My
>> understanding is that this flag was introduced in 2008 so HEIs could
>> identify students that started in 2008 or later (no previous study). The
>> idea being that these students were subject to a different household
>>
> income
>
>> assessment than pre 2008 entrants and possibly differing levels of
>> bursaries.
>>
>> However, this appears to not be the case and is now being used by the SLC
>> for students who are simply in their first year of study. I am waiting
>>
> for
>
>> clarification from the SLC but would appreciate it if anyone else has
>> raised this and if so what response they received.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Lynne
>>
>>
>>
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>> Sent: Fri 05/02/2010 13:33
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>>
>> Hello David
>>
>> It all depends. As we pay two instalments we may just cancel the second
>> instalment if they have already received what would be due or more than
>> they are due. Otherwise, yes we write it off rather than try to claim it
>> back from the student. Surprisingly this doesn't add up to too much
>>
> money
>
>> considering the grand total of money we pay out for bursaries.
>>
>> Many thanks
>>
>> Siobhan McCully
>> System Support Officer
>> Finance Service
>> Southampton Solent University
>> 023 80319135
>>
>>
>>
>> David Ealey
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>> 05/02/2010 13:27
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>>
>> Siobhan
>>
>> Given the number of reassessments that take place I am curious as to
>> what you do when a student is reassessed and so comes out with a lower
>> bursary award. We only pay on evidence verified for this reason.Do you
>> try and reclaim the money back or simply write it off.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> David Ealey
>>
>>
>> Siobhan McCully wrote, On 05/02/2010 13:21:
>>
>>
>>> Hello
>>>
>>> Fortunately we pay our bursaries regardless of whether the income has
>>>
>>>
>> been
>>
>>
>>> verified or not. It's unfair to make the students suffer because their
>>> information hasn't been fully processed.
>>>
>>> The problem that I have found is every time I try to run the pended
>>>
>>>
>> payment
>>
>>
>>> report I get nothing other than the headers come up. All the examples I
>>> have given so far I have been told they wouldn't have been on the report
>>> because of some reason or another but I can't believe I wouldn't get any
>>> come up on the report at all!!
>>>
>>> Has anyone else found this?
>>>
>>> Many thanks
>>>
>>> Siobhan McCully
>>> System Support Officer
>>> Finance Service
>>> Southampton Solent University
>>> 023 80319135
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> HASSALL Jo
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>>>
>>> Hi Helen
>>>
>>> We have more than usual here at Staffs too and we won't be paying ours
>>> until status changes to "verified"...we are telling students to call the
>>> help-line to find out what information is missing and they are being
>>> told everything is fine and to contact the University!...when WE ring on
>>> behalf of the student we are being told it is missing NI numbers /
>>> sponsor information or that the student hasn't signed the
>>> declaration!!!...WHY they're not telling the students this when they
>>> ring I don't know!!!...
>>>
>>> Jo
>>>
>>> ****************
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: List for discussions regarding Student Loans Company and Bursaries
>>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Helen Johnson
>>> Sent: 05 February 2010 12:33
>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>> Subject: Re: Bursaries and HEBSS
>>>
>>> Just wondering if anyone else is having this problem.
>>> This year, about half of our first year grant-eligible students are
>>> still
>>> evidence non-verified and unless this changes in the next week we won't
>>> be
>>> paying them the bursary at the end of this month. Is this the case for
>>> anyone else - more non-verifieds than usual - and are you paying
>>> anyway/have
>>> you raised it with SLC?
>>> About 10% of our list can be explained by CYI students - I'm not sure
>>> about
>>> the rest and have asked our relationship manager to look into it.
>>> Thanks in advance
>>>
>>> Helen
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