I too would be happy to add my name. Looking at the schematic
Occupational Health Nurses feature only at a band 5 level, which I would
presume in most organisations is a clinic or practice nurse level and it
has completely missed the whole remit of OH as specialist practitioners.
Chris Caldwell's response whilst prompt offered no real explanation as
to how OH nurses were missed out of the several hundred they consulted
with. Given that we have the opportunity to register as SCPHN and
featured nowhere in the consultation is really quite incredible and very
sad.
Beverley Griggs
Senior OHA/Manager
Occupational Health Service
Guernsey Health and Social Services Department
Tel: 01481 707715
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Subject: Re: [OCC-HEALTH] Nursing Career Framework
I am more then happy to add my name to Paul's email. Something needs to
change or we will end up the Cinderella service!
Rita
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Might be a good idea to all put our names to Paul's email so they are
then aware of the strength of feeling & that we are not all 'happy'.
with the stance?
Regards
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Dear all,
I just thought I'd share the speedy response from Chris Caldwell.
Best wishes
Paul
Paul D'Arcy
Clinical Nurse Leader
Occupational Health
Imperial College Healthcare NHS Trust
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Sent: 13 January 2010 17:16
To: Darcy, Paul
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Subject: Re: Nursing Career Framework
Hi paul
Thank you for your email
I am sorry that you are not happy with the visual
I have received hundreds of emails following its publication and your is
the first which expresses dissatisfaction. The design was developed
through consultation and testing with several hundred nurses across a
number of the pathways - it were their ideas which led to its
development in the way it does
We did not do specific work with OH nurses to map careers and the
prototype is only that - giving an indication of some roles - it is not
meant to be inclusive
The next phase to develop an interactive e-tool will enable us to
include the full ranhe of roles
I am copying in colleagues who will be working with me to take this
forward and we will bear your comments in mind
In the mean time you may wish to think about with colleagues in OH how
you might use it to promote nad develop OH nursing careers - we would. E
delighted to hear how you get on
Best wishes
Chris
Chris Caldwell
Programme Director
Modernising Nursing Careers
CNO Professional Leadership Team
Department of Health
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From: "Darcy, Paul" [[log in to unmask]]
Sent: 13/01/2010 10:55 GMT
To: Chris Caldwell
Cc: Occupational Health mailing list" <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Nursing Career Framework
Dear Chris,
I have just seen the framework prototype in the CNO bulletin and online
at DH.gov.uk.
I largely like the prototype as it gives a very clear indication of the
tremendous variety of nursing career pathways. I do however have a
couple of fundamental issues. Firstly, I believe the model is flawed in
it's basic structure and I wonder if it would have been better to start
with the junior nursing grades in the centre of the model with more
advanced and specialist areas radiating out of the centre. The career
routes for experienced nurses are incredibly varied and many of these
possibilities are not shown. For example, the prototype doesn't show
how one could become the Chief Nursing Officer.
I also have a significant issue about the public health nursing segment
of the model. I think this area does not do any justice to my own area
of practice, Occupational Health Nursing, and the model seems to suggest
it is subservient to health visiting and school and family nursing.
Occupational Health Nursing is a very important and highly specialised
area of nursing practice with education now commencing at degree level
and increasingly at masters level. I am presently undertaking a
doctorate and the model does not have an appropriate area for
progression within my practice arena yet I am aware of many options open
to me.
My main reason for flagging my concerns to you relate to the impression
the model may give to nurses considering careers in Occupational Health
nursing or students or other nurses at the start of their careers. I
note that in the CNO bulletin that there was no mention of OH nurses
participating in the development of the model and I think this was a
lost opportunity.
I would be grateful if my concerns could be noted. I would be happy to
contribute to any future discussion and development of the model if my
opinion would be valued.
Kind regards
Paul D'Arcy
Clinical Nurse Leader
Occupational Health
Imperial College Healthcare NHS Trust
2nd Floor Hammersmith House
Hammersmith Hospital
Du Cane Road
London
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