JiscMail Logo
Email discussion lists for the UK Education and Research communities

Help for CCPNMR Archives


CCPNMR Archives

CCPNMR Archives


CCPNMR@JISCMAIL.AC.UK


View:

Message:

[

First

|

Previous

|

Next

|

Last

]

By Topic:

[

First

|

Previous

|

Next

|

Last

]

By Author:

[

First

|

Previous

|

Next

|

Last

]

Font:

Proportional Font

LISTSERV Archives

LISTSERV Archives

CCPNMR Home

CCPNMR Home

CCPNMR  January 2010

CCPNMR January 2010

Options

Subscribe or Unsubscribe

Subscribe or Unsubscribe

Log In

Log In

Get Password

Get Password

Subject:

Re: Drawing real canvas ContourFile error: getting normal block data

From:

Wayne Boucher <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

CcpNmr software mailing list <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Wed, 20 Jan 2010 16:06:44 +0000

Content-Type:

MULTIPART/MIXED

Parts/Attachments:

Parts/Attachments

TEXT/PLAIN (280 lines)

Ah, I just went through the code again and I think it's actually ok after 
all, because he is doing a loop inside a loop which means the order 
doesn't matter, so it should actually do what it claims.

So I wonder about those three conditions again.  Presumably the isotopes 
are ok (so both spectra are (1H, 15N).  And the measurementType I'm pretty 
sure must be ok.  Which would leave the acquisition issue.  I'm not sure 
why it is even checking that, because why would you care when trying to 
map two spectra together.  So that's another Tim question, but meanwhile 
can you type the following at the Analsyis python prompt:

>>> def f(spec):
...   for dataDim in spec.sortedDataDims():
...     expDimRef = dataDim.findFirstDataDimRef().expDimRef
..      print spec.experiment.name, spec.name, dataDim.dim, expDimRef.isotopeCodes, 
expDimRef.measurementType, expDimRef.expDim.isAcquisition
...

(so just a carriage return on that last line and be careful with that long 
line, it is one line not two) and then

>>> spec = top.nmrProject.findFirstExperiment(name="XXX").findFirstDataSource()
>>> f(spec)

where XXX is the name of the experiment (and this is assuming that there 
is only one spectrum in the experiment).  Repeat those last two lines for 
each of the spectra in question and see what the output says.

I just tried it on an HSQC in our TutorialProject and got:

HSQC 115 1 ('1H',) Shift False
HSQC 115 2 ('15N',) Shift True

and I bet the 1H was the acquisition and the 15N was not, so it just goes 
to show.

Wayne

On Wed, 20 Jan 2010, Krisztina Feher wrote:

> Hi Wayne,
> 
> Ok, I will skip the 15N HSQC for now and continue with 13C HSQC only. Would be
> nice to sort it out at some point - though, of course, I have some print outs
> about the assignment.
> 
> Thanks again,
> Krisztina
> 
> --- On Wed, 1/20/10, Wayne Boucher <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>       From: Wayne Boucher <[log in to unmask]>
>       Subject: Re: Drawing real canvas ContourFile error: getting normal
>       block data
>       To: [log in to unmask]
>       Date: Wednesday, January 20, 2010, 4:22 PM
>
>       Hello,
>
>       I'm just tracing through the code to see where that error message
>       comes from and why it was triggered.  For each dim in the two
>       experiments/spectra it matches three things:
>
>       (1) the isotopeCodes, which in most cases, as here, is just a single
>       isotopeCode, e.g. 1H or 15N; so this should not be a problem if they
>       both agree that the two dims are (1H, 15N)
>
>       (2) the experiment measurement type, which is "Shift" by default and I
>       doubt if the default would ever have been changed so I don't think
>       this could be a problem
>
>       (3) whether the dim is the acquisition dim or not, I forget how this
>       is set so it's possible something is going wrong here
>
>       **BUT** the code (to me) looks like it is not doing the checks
>       properly in any case.  So to me it looks like v1 code where links were
>       all ordered, and not v2 code where they are mostly not ordered, and so
>       the coding has to be more careful.  (There is also a dangerous and
>       possibly incorrect piece of Python code in there, to boot.) 
>       Basically, I'm amazed that the kind of error message you see has not
>       come up more often.  (So, the lack of ordering can by luck not be a
>       problem if both spectra happen to end up the same way.)
>
>       I'll have a go at fixing this but I ought to run this past Tim,
>       because he might have an idea why the code is doing what it is doing
>       and I might be misunderstanding something there.
>
>       Wayne
>
>       On Wed, 20 Jan 2010, Krisztina Feher wrote:
>
>       > Hi Wayne,
>       >
>       > I found the original processed file, it had some strange number of
>       points (921 x
>       > 486) with block sizes of 921 and 1. I loaded them, so Analysis does
>       not draw the
>       > lines anymore, but the spectrum is still corrupt (only some
>       horizontally smeared
>       > noise can be seen), so I copied the assigned peaks to a freshly
>       processed spectra.
>       > That solved the 13C HSQC.
>       >
>       > However when I wanted to do the same copying with the 15N HSQC in
>       the Peak Lists
>       > window with Copy Peaks command I got the following:
>       >
>       > Could not map 2nd dimension of source's spectrum.
>       >
>       > In the Peak List I see the 158 peaks assigned in both  F1 and F2
>       dimension to H
>       > and N with corresponding 1H and 15N chemcial shifts. There are also
>       no peaks drawn
>       > in the window either, they are only listed in the Peak Table. 
>       >
>       > What could be the problem with that peak table?
>       >
>       > Thanks a lot,
>       > Krisztina
>       >
>       >
>       >
>       >
>       >
>       > --- On Wed, 1/20/10, Wayne Boucher <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>       >
>       >       From: Wayne Boucher <[log in to unmask]>
>       >       Subject: Re: Drawing real canvas ContourFile error: getting
>       normal
>       >       block data
>       >       To: [log in to unmask]
>       >       Date: Wednesday, January 20, 2010, 1:34 PM
>       >
>       >       Hello,
>       >
>       >       That is likely to be the problem.  And one thing on the TODO
>       list is
>       >       to
>       >       make it easier to do this kind of thing.  So the program
>       should
>       >       probably
>       >       prompt you to check that the number of points, etc., are still
>       ok.
>       >
>       >       You can modify this in the program via the Experiments -->
>       Spectra
>       >       dialog,
>       >       in the Referencing and File Details tabs.  The tricky bit
>       might be the
>       >       block sizes.  If you're not sure about any of the data then I
>       would
>       >       not delete the existing spectrum but instead open the spectrum
>       afresh
>       >       to
>       >       see what the values are, and then copy them over.  I hope that
>       makes
>       >       sense.
>       >
>       >       Wayne
>       >
>       >       On Wed, 20 Jan 2010, Krisztina Feher wrote:
>       >
>       >       > Hi Wayne,
>       >       >
>       >       > Thanks for the quick relpy. The software can open the
>       spectrum
>       >       freshly. I transferred
>       >       > this project from another computer, I could not find the
>       original
>       >       processed file, so I
>       >       > opened with a newly processed one. I think it  must have
>       been a
>       >       different processing
>       >       > program used originally. Could that be the problem?
>       >       >
>       >       > Krisztina
>       >       >
>       >       >
>       >       > --- On Wed, 1/20/10, Wayne Boucher
>       <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>       >       >
>       >       >       From: Wayne Boucher <[log in to unmask]>
>       >       >       Subject: Re: Drawing real canvas ContourFile error:
>       getting
>       >       normal block
>       >       >       data
>       >       >       To: [log in to unmask]
>       >       >       Date: Wednesday, January 20, 2010, 12:47 PM
>       >       >
>       >       >       Hello,
>       >       >
>       >       >       This could be a couple of things.  So is that version
>       of
>       >       Analysis capable
>       >       >       of opening a spectrum from fresh and drawing it?  If
>       so it's
>       >       possible that
>       >       >       that error message is indicating that the HSQC files
>       are
>       >       truncated
>       >       >       somehow, or perhaps (although I doubt this) that the
>       endianess
>       >       is wrong.
>       >       >       If it can't open a spectrum from fresh then either the
>       >       compilation or the
>       >       >       linking of the C libraries is probably knackered.
>       >       >
>       >       >       Wayne
>       >       >
>       >       >       On Wed, 20 Jan 2010, Krisztina Feher wrote:
>       >       >
>       >       >       > Hi,
>       >       >       >
>       >       >       > I would need a bit of help with a project loading.
>       It is
>       >       older project
>       >       >       which
>       >       >       > I would like to load now into CCPN 2.1.2 on Ubuntu
>       8.10 with
>       >       all latest
>       >       >       > updates installed. The project should have a 15N
>       HSQC and a
>       >       13C HSQC
>       >       >       spectra
>       >       >       > with assignment on them. The 13C HSQC starts to load
>       and
>       >       then it draws
>       >       >       > magenta lines tighly next to each other diagonally
>       into the
>       >       lower left
>       >       >       > corner of the window, which fill up half of the
>       window with
>       >       the magenta
>       >       >       > lines and then it displays the error message all
>       over again:
>       >       >       >
>       >       >       >>>> Drawing real canvas ContourFile error: getting
>       normal
>       >       block data
>       >       >       > Drawing real canvas ContourFile error: getting
>       normal block
>       >       data
>       >       >       > Drawing real canvas ContourFile error: getting
>       normal block
>       >       data
>       >       >       > Drawing real canvas ContourFile error: getting
>       normal block
>       >       data
>       >       >       > Drawing real canvas ContourFile error: getting
>       normal block
>       >       data
>       >       >       > Drawing real canvas ContourFile error: getting
>       normal block
>       >       data
>       >       >       >
>       >       >       > The picked peaks with assignment are visible, but I
>       cannot
>       >       see the
>       >       >       spectrum
>       >       >       > peaks. Anyone know what is this about and how could
>       I save
>       >       my project with
>       >       >       > the assignment in it?
>       >       >       >
>       >       >       > Thanks a lot,
>       >       >       > Krisztina
>       >       >       >
>       >       >
>       >       >
>       >       >
>       >       >
>       >
>       >
>       >
>       > ???
> 
> 
> 
>

Top of Message | Previous Page | Permalink

JiscMail Tools


RSS Feeds and Sharing


Advanced Options


Archives

April 2024
March 2024
February 2024
January 2024
December 2023
November 2023
October 2023
September 2023
August 2023
July 2023
June 2023
May 2023
April 2023
March 2023
February 2023
January 2023
December 2022
November 2022
October 2022
September 2022
August 2022
July 2022
June 2022
May 2022
April 2022
March 2022
February 2022
January 2022
December 2021
November 2021
October 2021
September 2021
August 2021
July 2021
June 2021
May 2021
April 2021
March 2021
February 2021
January 2021
December 2020
November 2020
October 2020
September 2020
August 2020
July 2020
June 2020
May 2020
April 2020
March 2020
February 2020
January 2020
December 2019
November 2019
October 2019
September 2019
August 2019
July 2019
June 2019
May 2019
April 2019
March 2019
February 2019
January 2019
December 2018
November 2018
October 2018
September 2018
August 2018
July 2018
June 2018
May 2018
April 2018
March 2018
February 2018
January 2018
December 2017
November 2017
October 2017
September 2017
August 2017
July 2017
June 2017
May 2017
April 2017
March 2017
February 2017
January 2017
December 2016
November 2016
October 2016
September 2016
August 2016
July 2016
June 2016
May 2016
April 2016
March 2016
February 2016
January 2016
December 2015
November 2015
October 2015
September 2015
August 2015
July 2015
June 2015
May 2015
April 2015
March 2015
February 2015
January 2015
December 2014
November 2014
October 2014
September 2014
August 2014
July 2014
June 2014
May 2014
April 2014
March 2014
February 2014
January 2014
December 2013
November 2013
October 2013
September 2013
August 2013
July 2013
June 2013
May 2013
April 2013
March 2013
February 2013
January 2013
December 2012
November 2012
October 2012
September 2012
August 2012
July 2012
June 2012
May 2012
April 2012
March 2012
February 2012
January 2012
December 2011
November 2011
October 2011
September 2011
August 2011
July 2011
June 2011
May 2011
April 2011
March 2011
February 2011
January 2011
December 2010
November 2010
October 2010
September 2010
August 2010
July 2010
June 2010
May 2010
April 2010
March 2010
February 2010
January 2010
December 2009
November 2009
October 2009
September 2009
August 2009
July 2009
June 2009
May 2009
April 2009
March 2009
February 2009
January 2009
December 2008
November 2008
October 2008
September 2008
August 2008
July 2008
June 2008
May 2008
April 2008
March 2008
February 2008
January 2008
December 2007
November 2007
October 2007
September 2007
August 2007
July 2007
June 2007
May 2007
April 2007
March 2007
February 2007
January 2007
December 2006
November 2006
October 2006
September 2006
August 2006
July 2006
June 2006
May 2006
April 2006
March 2006
February 2006
January 2006
December 2005
November 2005
October 2005
September 2005
August 2005
July 2005
June 2005
May 2005
April 2005
March 2005
February 2005
January 2005
December 2004
November 2004
October 2004
September 2004
August 2004
July 2004
June 2004
May 2004
April 2004
March 2004
February 2004
January 2004
December 2003
November 2003
October 2003
September 2003


JiscMail is a Jisc service.

View our service policies at https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/policyandsecurity/ and Jisc's privacy policy at https://www.jisc.ac.uk/website/privacy-notice

For help and support help@jisc.ac.uk

Secured by F-Secure Anti-Virus CataList Email List Search Powered by the LISTSERV Email List Manager