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Well, mitred abbots could give pontifical blessings, of course.
John Briggs
---- Cecilia Gaposchkin <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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> Richard - this is immensely useful. Yes.
> So, the bishop would "describe" a cross in the air, at the place of the "+"?
> I hadn't understood that. Would other types of priests be able to do this,
> or are episcopal blessings reserved specifically for bishops?
> This has all been immensely useful - thank you to *all*.
>
> cecilia
>
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 1:00 AM, Richard Kay <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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> > medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture
> >
> > Briggs is right on in identifying Gellone as a bishop's book. Moeller was
> > interested in collecting all versions of a given text, in this case
> > *pontifical* blessings, but for the sake of completeness, he would include
> > all occurences of a given text, so some nonpontifical occurences slipped in.
> > Generally speaking a liturgical oratio is a prayer addressed to God, and
> > a blessing is a prayer asking for his blessing on some one or thing. The
> > basic features are present in blessings that priests can give. Thus in the
> > *Rituale Romanum" (my copy 1947), the main part of the blessing of bees
> > begins "Oremus, Domine Deus..." (with rubric, "Oratio") and the operative
> > clause is "descendat tua sancta bene+dictio super has apes." Finally, the
> > rubric instructs the priest to sprinkle the hive with holy water. The crux
> > of the matter is usually marked with a cross, indicating that the officiant
> > describes a cross in the air towards whatever is being blessed.
> > A typical bishop's blessing - the kind collected in a pontifical
> > Benedictionale - is more complicated, being typically constructed of 3
> > clauses, followed by the key words "Quod ipse praestare dignetur..." (May
> > the same [god] deign to be present) [the initials Q.i.p.d. frequently
> > standing for the whole formula in collections of blessings] and concluding
> > "Benedictio dei + patris et + filii et spiritus + sancti, et pax eius sit
> > semper vobiscum."
> > Hope this helps. Richard Kay
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Briggs" <
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> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 6:15 PM
> >
> > Subject: Re: [M-R] Benedictions v. Votive masses
> >
> >
> > medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture
> >>
> >> ---- Cecilia Gaposchkin <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Well, this is exactly what I'm trying to figure out. Exactly what an
> >>> "oratio" is - here, an "Oratio pro iter agentibus" that follows a "miss
> >>> pro
> >>> fratibus in via dirigendis" (here, in a Missal from Vich, 11th century).
> >>>
> >>
> >> Well, it's prayer - but whether that means an extra collect or some other
> >> prayer, I wouldn't know. What prayers are specified for the mass itself?
> >>
> >> But, also, what the function of the oratio in, for instance, in the
> >>> Gellone
> >>> Sacramentary. There is a section for Benedictions and also one for
> >>> Masses.
> >>>
> >>
> >> I would expect the Benedictions to be Episcopal Blessings, and the Masses
> >> to be Collect, Secret and Postcommunion in all cases. (The celebrant is
> >> assumed to be a bishop, which is why the benedictions are included.)
> >>
> >> I got my start here with Moeller's Corpus Benedictionum Pontificalium.
> >>> But
> >>> am just a bit confused about what this covers and what it doesn't.
> >>>
> >>
> >> I would expect that to be Episcopal Blessings *only*.
> >>
> >> John Briggs
> >>
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