I'm afraid that I'm with Mike, John and Pete on this: shrug shoulders, move on. The danger otherwise is that the response escalates and becomes part of the story (usual scenario: avatars with placards, torches, pitchforks, bonfire...). If the original had been overly disrespectful, I might have felt otherwise but it did make an attempt at balance and synthesis so I'm inclined to let it pass and just accept that this is how the world works now.
The purpose of my original message was just to alert list members and maybe some caveat should be issued to new members that this can happen.
Peter [SL: Graham Mills]
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From: For anyone working in education with an interest in virtual worlds [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Michael Moran
Sent: 28 October 2009 10:37
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [VIRTUALWORLDS] Impromptu get-together
Hi all
I wasn't able to go to the event being discussed but have been following both the original discussion on dress code and this subsequent one.
A few thoughts for your consideration:
What Rebecca Attwood seems to have done is the equivalent of a journalist earwigging into a bar conversation in a university/college staff common and then writing it up for the paper as if it was news - and of some significance.
On this occasion no real harm seems to have been done (no names; no astounding assertions) - but if the leakiness of JISC Mail lists is an issue then that can be fixed surely by the way in which people are invited and content is moderated?
There is space on the THE site for anyone to make comments on the article and maybe if people feel strongly enough they can use that route to say so.
Finally ... we are always reminding students to be vigilant about their use of the internet. Are we exempt from such considerations?
Yours in a dinner jacket (and trousers of course).
Mike Moran
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From: For anyone working in education with an interest in virtual worlds [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of APPLETON Christa
Sent: 28 October 2009 10:22
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Subject: Re: [VIRTUALWORLDS] Impromptu get-together
Clearly permission wasn't sort, or citation made as to the source!
Personally I'm not happy to think that something I say in an educational
forum (a safe environment?) may then be quoted by a journalist on the
web without my knowledge or consent.
Christa Appleton
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From: For anyone working in education with an interest in virtual worlds
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Pete Johnston
Sent: 28 October 2009 10:09
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Subject: Re: [VIRTUALWORLDS] Impromptu get-together
> I agree with Mark that its
> rather creepy finding some of the conversation appearing in a
> journalistic article! Is this directly from SL or from the VW forum do
> we think?
From memory, it looks to me like it's from this Jiscmail list (though I
haven't checked thoroughly). I do tend to work on the basis that
anything I post to a Jiscmail list might end up cited elsewhere.
See e.g.
http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/help/policy/index.htm
"The extent to which your message is made available across the internet
will depend on the level of access that has been decided by the
listowner."
And
http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/help/policy/copyright.htm
"When you post to a public list you do not lose copyright, but your
message may be archived, forwarded to other lists, or quoted by others"
Though I note also on that page (under "Moral Rights"):
"Although your message may be widely disseminated, you have a right to
expect the following:
- Attribution is given to the author - the name of the original sender
should always be acknowledged."
Pete
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