Many thanks for that very helpful summary.
Is anyone using Axiell's ImageView to manage images?
With thanks,
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Aaron,
Further to that...
Aaron, I am certainly aware of the challenge. It is only too easy to
build up a collection of master images, archive images, web images,
print images and various other surrogates so that you can clog up the
largest of systems, let alone the problems that it brings up in
sensible identification of each type of image.
I think the answer lies less in the choice of Image Management System
and a more in a re-evaluation of your workflow.
The key to this is to really remember that you store 'master' images
and as much as possible you 'make, use & chuck' your surrogates. The
masters are your resource and your surrogates are ephemeral.
I think you can support this kind of workflow in two ways:
The first is to have a large Image or Asset Management System which
holds your master images and creates (exports) your surrogates as &
when you need them. In these IMS, the system holds your images in
system-named tables and folders. You are kept separate from handling
all images until they are exported as a set of surrogates. Again,
you use them once, but don't try and store or archive them
externally. Next time you want them you go back to the program and it
exports another set.
The second, and this is very much the way 'commercial' and small
collection image management is going is as Dave has already suggested
- Adobe Lightroom. But the reason this works in image management
terms is that you store all images in their 'RAW' (or DNG) form and
do not store or record the surrogates at all. Again, when you need a
set of surrogates, you make them directly from the RAW files, use
them and chuck away. This has many advantages, not least of all
knowing that you are always using the best quality files to make your
surrogates.
If there is an issue with Lightroom, it is of course the lack of
custom fields and the reliance on keywords. XMP should help sort
this out, but support still seems a bit patchy.
If you want to keep all your surrogates and store them all ....and
use custom fields, then I would recommend having a look at Extensis
Portfolio, which is now a very competent Image Management System,
which will handle them all with ease at a reasonable price.
cheers
eib
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At 02/10/2009 11:58, you wrote:
>Hi Aaron
>
>If you're PC based you could look at Adobe Photoshop
>Lightroom. This is a hybrid editing/image management
>application. Like Michael's suggestion of Aperture (a similar
>application but for the Mac based user) it is designed primarily
>with photographers in mind and is most suitable for those using raw
>files - a big plus is that it enables you to make non-destructive
>edits to raw files. The image management features of Lightroom are
>very good and it will certainly help with your image management
>issues. Adobe Bridge is really a glorified folder viewer and will
>certainly go some way to help but won't be anywhere near as fast or
>slick as a true image management system since it has to re-render
>previews of your images on the fly and is not based around a database.
>
>It should be noted that both Lightroom and Aperture are client only
>apps (they'll sit on one machine only and can't be configured as
>server-client systems). If you want multiple user access to your
>image management database you'll need to look at things such as
>Extensis Portfolio, Canto Cumulus etc.
>
>JISC Digital Media have some useful resources if you've the time to
>have a quick read. The following Bit.ly links point to some
>particularly useful resources on Image and Digital Asset Management
Systems:
>
><http://bit.ly/JFgTx> Choosing a System for Managing your Image
Collection
><http://bit.ly/HKDnC> Systems for Managing Digital Media Collections
><http://bit.ly/1NWvEC> Image Management Software (The providers tell
>us what their systems can and can't do for you)
>
>Hope that helps
>
>Dave Kilbey
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>--On 02 October 2009 11:20 +0100 Michael Stocking
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>>Aaron
>>
>>For two easy and cheap solutions, you could look at Adobe Bridge or
Apple
>>Aperture. Up from there you get into Digital Asset Management systems.
>>
>>Michael
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>>On 2 Oct 2009, at 11:05, Aaron Hickman wrote:
>>
>>>Dear Sir/Madam
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>I am researching into a new way we can manage our images at
>>>Wolverhampton Art Gallery. We have a large quantity of images saved
>>>and
>>>need them to be more centralised so as to be more accessible to
>>>colleagues. We edit each image and resize them and save them into
>>>their
>>>resized folder. Having duplicates of the same image and different
>>>sizes
>>>can be hard to organise. Is there an easier way to manage a large
>>>quantity of images?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Regards
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Aaron Hickman
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