Hi Peter

"I used Dragon NaturallySpeaking (DNS) 10 on Windows XP Pro with Word 2007 
(trial download) for over a month without encountering the issue you
describe."

Well as I discovered myself, the problem is intermittent.

"CTFMON.exe (a background process which interferes with Dragon or ViaVoice)"

That's interesting. What does CTFMON.exe do. Can you cancel that process
with no ill effects?

"I assume that DNS service pack 1 (10.1) has been installed?"

No it hasn't. 

"I suspect that this is a Vista 64-bit issue."

No, it's a 32 bit machine

"Consumption of machine resources by the Vista operating system can be
reduced, however 
this requires deactivation of a number of services."

Which ones, and is there a way of automating this so you don't have to do it
by hand each time?


Mike P






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On Wed, 21 Oct 2009 16:15:16 +0100, Conrad Hodgkinson 
<[log in to unmask]> wrote:

>As long-time Dragon users (and usually admirers), we have experienced
>exactly the same problems with Word 2007.  Our solution has been more
>pragmatic - return to Word 2003!
>
>I'm wondering if any of this is related to Vista 64-bit?  All seemed a lot
>more reliable with XP.  On Windows Mail, focus is lost every time you make
a
>voice correction to an e-mail and you have to say 'body field' to retrieve
>the cursor.
>
>Do you know about Knowbrainer?  They really are tops with everything Dragon
>related.  Try putting the issue(s) into the Dragon Forum at
>http://www.knowbrainer.com/pubforum/ and you may well find that someone
>there can suggest a solution.
>
>Let the rest of us know if they do!
>
>Conrad Hodgkinson
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "pennineeducationservices.co.uk"
><[log in to unmask]>
>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 2:28 PM
>Subject: Re: page jumps about when using Dragon
>
>
>>I tried to implement your suggestion Tim, but I can't seem to replicate
the
>> problem today. Typical. I did note that the cursor always appears at the
>> end
>> of the sentence that has just been dictated. Is this the same as the
>> 'insertion point'? And if you say 'select banana', which is in a
different
>> part of the page, it selects banana without making the page jump. And if
>> you
>> then say 'satsuma' to replace the selected word, it dutifully moves the
>> cursor to the character after satsuma.
>>
>> Yesterday it was jumping around so much it was almost unusable. You have
>> to
>> wonder how a dyslexic user would cope with that.
>>
>>
>> Mike Parry
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: A discussion list for Assistive Technology professionals.
>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Tim Symons
>> Sent: 20 October 2009 09:53
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: page jumps about when using Dragon
>>
>> Yup, its to do with focusing. Word, in general, is a pain in the ass,
>> and this is a classic example.
>>
>> When you dictate, Word gets confused with where you should be, as the
>> insertion point is not the same as your relative position in text. For
>> example, if the insertion point is at the beginning of a doc, but you
>> dictate a full page, it will jump up and down until you change the
>> insertion point (ie, physically click the page)
>>
>> A possible workaround theory for this, is to occasionally use the
>> 'Insert before' or 'Insert after' command without inserting anything -
>> just to move the insertion point - randomly, on the lowest, or last,
>> segment of text your working on. Haven't tried this, but seems to work
>> in my head - let me know if it works out.
>>
>> This also happens when you open a multipage doc in word (whether using
>> Dragon or not), immediately 'grab' the scroll bar, and move to a
>> segment. Word doesn't care about this, and will 'unravel' the multipage
>> doc it is opening, plonking you back at the beginning of the doc.
>>
>> Grrrrrrrr
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Tim Symons
>> Trainer/Assessor
>> Access Summit
>> 0161 275 0990
>> "...supporting students..."
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: A discussion list for Assistive Technology professionals.
>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of
>> pennineeducationservices.co.uk
>> Sent: 19 October 2009 13:58
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: page jumps about when using Dragon
>>
>> Anyone come across this syndrome? It happens when I'm dictating with
>> Dragon
>> 10 Naturally Speaking version 10 into a Word 2007 document. The cursor
>> stays
>> in the right place but the page scrolls up and down in the Window in a
>> jerky
>> manner. Most annoying.
>>
>> I'm suspecting that it might be something to do with Word 2007, which
>> has a
>> tendency to act weird at the best of times IMHO.
>>
>> cheers
>>
>> Mike Parry
>
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