Michael
When Christiane Paul, Jemima Rellie and I curated the FEEDBACK show at Laboral in Gijon a couple of years ago we focussed 'on art responsive to instructions, input, or its environment'. This was partly to be able to exclude video etc... from our considerations without getting bogged down in medium-based definitions of the work we wanted to represent, such as 'digital' work
On the model of Gregory Bateson's definition of information as 'the difference that makes a difference' we can think of truly time-based work as involving a temporal difference or deferral that makes a difference (I keep trying to write the derridean neologism, difference with a final 'a' rather than 'e', for difference/deferral, but it keeps getting changed back to difference).
In other words, unless there is some kind of event, something that happens, that arrives, that is open to the future, rather than mere repetition, it is not time-based
Hope this makes sense etc...
Charlie Gere
Head of Department
Department of Media, Film and Cultural Studies
Lancaster University Lancaster LA1 4YL UK
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From: Curating digital art - www.crumbweb.org [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Michael Connor
Sent: 04 September 2009 16:00
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Subject: Re: [NEW-MEDIA-CURATING] September 2009: update and "Real-Time: Showing Art in the Age of New Media"
Charlie,
Greetings from Eastern Standard time. I like your point about the work
of art as ontological mirror:
"In the gallery it presents a kind of ontological mirror reflecting
back and stabilising our own sense of self in its apparent stability
and autonomy... By contrast time-based art, interactive art, and all
art involving some form of interaction over time tend to do the
opposite. Perhaps this may be a partial explanation of the continued
resistance to such work in mainstream institutions."
But with regard to the idea of 'continued resistance', I think it's
fair to say that time-based art is extremely successful in mainstream
institutions. I'm not sure you're drawing the line in the right place;
perhaps the real binary is not between object and non-object but
between open and closed, or object and system.
Michael
On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 9:55 AM, Johannes
Birringer<[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> yes, "Niech zdechna artysci" indeed, in '85 at La Mama, very nice powdered make up on faces to make the actors look deadly ghostly. no smoking in theatres then.
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> j.b.
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>>>>>
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> Kantor??? make-up like Kabuki??? Oh my god! What did you smoke to see
> this? He is crying from his tomb: "Qu'ils crčvent, les artistes"!!
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> j.s.
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