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Re: FW: Laboratory studies

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"Fuller, Steve" <[log in to unmask]>

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Fuller, Steve

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Tue, 22 Sep 2009 16:20:29 +0100

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An interesting response. I hope you don't mind if someone someday asks where did this business of 'paradigms' come from!

Steve

Steve Fuller 
Professor of Sociology 
University of Warwick 
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United Kingdom
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-----Original Message-----
From: Þorsteinn Vilhjálmsson [mailto:[log in to unmask]] 
Sent: 22 September 2009 16:18
To: Fuller, Steve
Cc: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: FW: Laboratory studies

I can not see how you can postulate that there are no newcomers to the
list. Nor can I see the wisdom in treating hypothetical newcomers
negatively.

References to a given book can be informative to the reader (list member)
although he already knows the book.

Knowing Steindor, I have no doubt that he is already familiar with L&W.
However, I have no reason to presume that everybody else on the list knows
him to that extent.

Best greetings

Thorsteinn
-- 
Þorsteinn Vilhjálmsson / Thorsteinn Vilhjalmsson
prófessor í eðlisfræði og vísindasögu /
Professor of Physics and History of Science
Háskóla Íslands /University of Iceland
Raunvísindadeild / Department of Physical Science

On Tue, September 22, 2009 2:38 pm, Fuller, Steve wrote:
> It would be fascinating to learn if Cozzoli's reference IS indeed news to
> some people on this list -- and if it is not news, whether it is still
> considered 'unorthodox', as Cozzoli himself suggests.
>
> My own view is that the Latour (and Woolgar!) reference should be obvious
> -- perhaps even taken for granted -- and his take on laboratory studies is
> the normal starting point, even if there are various disagreements down
> the line. In saying this, I don't mean to be endorsing the Latour-Woolgar
> line, simply its presumptive significance in the field.
>
> To me, Steindor's question sounds like something that could have been
> asked in earnestness maybe 25 years ago -- but now?!
> Surely, Google could get to Latour-Woolgar in a flash!
>
> I am not trying to pick a fight here, but I raise this more as a reality
> check about the historical self-consciousness of history of science as a
> field.
>
> Steve
>
> Steve Fuller
> Professor of Sociology
> University of Warwick
> Coventry CV4 7AL
> United Kingdom
> Phone +44 2476 523 940
>
> http://www2.warwick.ac.uk/fac/soc/sociology/staff/academicstaff/sfuller/fullers_index
> http://www.warwick.ac.uk/~sysdt/Index.html
> BLOG: 'Making the University Safe for Intellectual Life in the 21st
> Century'
> http://blogs.warwick.ac.uk/swfuller/
> NEW BOOK (Autumn 2009): The Sociology of Intellectual Life -- The Career
> of the Mind In and Around the Academy (Sage). Save 50% order online at
> www.sagepub.co.uk quoting promo code UK09AF024. E-book also available at
> £24.95 (ISBN 978-1-84920-523-8)
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Promoting discussion in the science studies community
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Daniele Cozzoli
> Sent: 22 September 2009 15:09
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Laboratory studies
>
> You probably already know Latour's un-orthodox view:
>
> Bruno Latour, Laboratory Life. The Construction of Scientific Facts,
> Princeton University Press, 1986
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Viviane Quirke" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 10:45 AM
> Subject: Re: Laboratory studies
>
>
> As this may be of interest to all, can I suggest that thE replies are sent
> to Mersenne as well?
>
> Off the top of my head, in the history of medicine a classic and still
> very useful book, which should be widely available although it is not the
> journal or review article you request:
>
> A. Cunningham & Perry Wiilliams (eds), The Laboratory Revolution in
> Medicine (Cambridge: CUP, 1992).
>
> Viviane
>
> Dr Viviane Quirke
> RCUK Academic Fellow in 20th-century Biomedicine
> Centre for Health, Medicine and Society
> Oxford Brookes University
>
>
>> Hi
>>
>> Can anyone direct me towards the relevant literature on laboratory
>> studies?  As I am pressed for time I would prefer journal papers or
>> review articles that I can easily access. Please reply to me
>> personally: [log in to unmask]
>>
>> Regards,
>> Steindór
>> --
>> Steindór J. Erlingsson
>> vísindasagnfræðingur/historian of science
>> http://www.raunvis.hi.is/~steindor/
>>
>> "My own view is that most psychiatric diagnoses are about as
>> scientifically meaningful as star signs ..." (Richard Bentall,
>> Doctoring the Mind, 2009: 110)
>>
>

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