Hi Frankie,
The Collections Trust has had some interesting initial conversations about the possibility of doing an event along the lines of the GLAM-WIKI in Australia - essentially bringing together Wikipedia and the sector in a public forum (ie at a one-day event) to try and identify common interests and particularly a common approach to sharing Digital images. If it went ahead, it would be likely to be early next year. Is this something you and others on the list would be interested in participating in?
I'd be particularly interested to know whether people think it would be possible to have an open, adult and constructive dialogue between the various protagonists in this situation.
All best,
Nick
Nick Poole
Chief Executive
Collections Trust
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Subject: Re: NPG vs Wikipedia (was: BBC Desperate Romantics paintings)
2009/9/23 Jeff Doyle <[log in to unmask]>
Whether or not the NPG has the legal right to frustrate access to public
> domain access seems to me to beside the point. The attempt to do so is
> ethically rather shabby.
>
I don't know how closely other people have been following this story, but I
thought I'd share a few links that may be of interest:
* Firstly, there's now a Wikipedia page on the subject (naturally):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Portrait_Gallery_copyright_conflicts
* Mr Coetzee's user page on Wikipedia:
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Dcoetzee/NPG_legal_threat
* Discussion page on his page:
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Dcoetzee/NPG_legal_threat
* 'Village pump' discussion:
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Village_pump/Archive/2009Jul#Legal_threat_from_National_Portrait_Gallery
* Article from Electronic Freedom Frontier (who are representing Mr
Coetzee), including their lawyer's letter:
http://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2009/07/eff-defends-wikipedi
* Creative Commons article: http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/15764
* [UK] Open Rights Group story:
http://www.openrightsgroup.org/blog/2009/national-portrait-gallery-vs-wikipedia/
* A lawyer's opinion:
http://www.francisdavey.co.uk/2009/07/national-portrait-gallery-photographs.html
* Another lawyer's opinion:
http://lawclanger.blogspot.com/2009/07/its-not-often-that-copyright-cases-get.html
* Another legal opinion:
http://www.technollama.co.uk/national-portrait-gallery-copyright-row
I think there are a lot of people there desperately hoping that this does go
to court, so that some precedent can be set either way. However, I think I'm
right in saying that Wikipedia have de-admined Mr Coetzee on Wikipedia
Commons, so that he is now unable to remove the images, even if he is
ordered to do so by a court (which seems unlikely, I think all they can do
is seek damages).
Also of note, working with museums and galleries (rather than against) gets
an early mention by Jimmy Wales in his recent 'State of the Wiki' keynote:
http://strategy.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:200908270938-Jimmy_Wales-The_State_of_the_Wiki.ogg
Frankie
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