Absolutely David. Absolutely. Yet this is yet another example to demonstrate that unless we get out of our theoretical closets, debating which actions we are going to use our collective middle class host community power to challenge those hierarchical traditional institutions , children ( as an example) from war zones will be subjected to the swift judgemental and accusing system which is our immigration judicial system, be branded a liar, denied access to further legal advice, or accommodation, or healthcare, or the right to work, receive benefits, or even marry and become one more member of the 1% class - one per cent of people have their asylum claims accepted at first post, and 26% on appeal ( the stage at which middle class host community professionals are paid to give an opinion - or more likely not).
Now where was I?
Oh yes - should we decide to take action and speak out against poverty? Climate change? Medicalisation of mental health?
Allow me the weekend to consider...
Miriam
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From: David Fryer <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 13:28:40
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: [COMMUNITYPSYCHUK] CAn anyone recommend an educational
psychologist for a non english speaking child?
clearly there is injustice here but as this is acommunity psycholoy list can we not think of other ways forward than buyng into the whole ' ''diagnosis' has a learning disability' medical model nonsense?
David
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From: Samantha Roberts <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask]
Sent: Friday, 11 September, 2009 13:40:00
Subject: Re: CAn anyone recommend an educational psychologist for a non english speaking child?
Hi, I'm been working as a trainee on placement in LD (children and adults)
and recently used the Leiter scale for a young man (17) who had limited
verbal communication due to cerebral palsy. The norms may be not be
completely valid (it's a really old tool), but it has some advantages
because it does not require the assessor to give verbal instruction (well,
very very limited) nor for the person being assessed to respond verbally.
It would perhaps give some means of screening for LD if nothing else.
Also, rather than seeking an ed psych, is there a reason why the local LD
team cannot assess him if it seems likely he has a learning disability?
In case it is helpful, we had some brilliant teaching from Nigel Beail
([log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]> ) about diagnosis of LD and the
validity/reliability of current tools, and he is probably very able to
advise on what the limitations, etc, would be of using the tools that are
mostly available in clin psych services.
Hope this helps (though my knowledge of this area is very very
limited-sorry!)
Sam
>
>
> Hi,
>
>
>
> I have had an urgent referral of a young male seeker of asylum living in
> the East Midlands. He has given a date of birth but is unable to produce
> documents recording his DOB ( usual in many countries).
>
>
>
> He has been assessed by a specialist paeditrician who has not confirmed
> that his physiological age is consistent with his proferred age. In
> addition new High Court rulings is refusing to accept medical age
> assessments any more..
>
>
>
> The young man's GP has assessed him as potentially having a learning
> difficulty. He is not literate in any language, and the suggestion is that
> his learning disability inhibits him living independently, or autonmously.
> His GP also assesses him as suffering from trauma.
>
>
>
> I can assess for trauma, I can't assess for learning difficulty. So far
> all approached educational psychologists are declining to assess because
> they say they can only assess where there is a level of speaking and
> understanding english.
>
>
>
> This seems to me to be extraordinary - surely infants have assessments??
>
>
>
> Without an assessment this young person stands to be judged harshly by the
> courts. Pieces of paer are everything.
>
>
>
> Is there anyone able to conduct an assessment or who can recommend?
>
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Miriam
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